My 2023 cycle.

[CK55]

Hey guys long time no see, I have not been on here for a while because of real life stuff.

My new cycle i have planned to get ready for the summer. I dont really care about being mass monster so to say i will focus more on the Athletic part get to around 11-12% fat im at 14.6 now. The cycle is quite simple I never ran high doses really. My cycle will be 12 maybe 14 weeks of test at 250mg never went past 350, and tbol 40-50mg(sweet spot for me) without feeling like shit, my training buddy is using around 90mg of tbol. How many mgs would you guys run personally?

Layout is
1-5 agian maybe bump it to 6 weeks tbol 40-50mg maybe bump it up to 60 depends of feeling.
1-14 250 or 350mg I think i will be sticking to 250 more is less I guess lol
5-14 gw 10mg because i like cardio a lot.
Aromosin 12.5 eod. Would you run it from day one or wait until a few weeks into the cycle? Personally i always waited.

I will try to use hcg for the first time in pct.

My pct will be the standard pct Dylan told me about years ago.

Have a good day - Chris

 

[DylanGemelli]

hcg in pct?? what?? ? you really dont know what you are doing bro..

if you feel like tanking yourself and ruining your cycle as well as your lh and fsh then run hcg in pct

i even have a video discussing this

when you use testosterone, you are clearly adding large amounts of it into your body which causes you to eventually be suppressed when you stop using it because your body forgets how to produce it on its own... hence, the need for pct... so, what hcg does is MIMIC your lh and fsh, just like taking testosterone, mimics testosterone production which eventually leads to suppression, correct... so when you mimic lh and fsh, what happens when you stop using it?? im sure you can put two and two together... the reason you use hcg is to get your lh and fsh STIMULATED before pct, so they are not completely bottomed out because when you use test, they are non existent... just like when you run an oral without test... when you go into pct, your test is bottomed out.... when you go into pct using test, AT LEAST its much higher making recovery easier as you reteach your body to produce on its own... so if you use hcg BEFORE pct, then it gives that boost while your body learns how to produce on its own... HOWEVER, if you run hcg IN PCT or after, you end up suppressing yourself because you are just mimicking, not helping to jumpstart anything like nolva and clomid do for your natural testosterone production... NOT TO MENTION, hcg ALSO increases estrogen...

 

[CK55]

hcg in pct?? what?? ? you really dont know what you are doing bro..

if you feel like tanking yourself and ruining your cycle as well as your lh and fsh then run hcg in pct

i even have a video discussing this

when you use testosterone, you are clearly adding large amounts of it into your body which causes you to eventually be suppressed when you stop using it because your body forgets how to produce it on its own... hence, the need for pct... so, what hcg does is MIMIC your lh and fsh, just like taking testosterone, mimics testosterone production which eventually leads to suppression, correct... so when you mimic lh and fsh, what happens when you stop using it?? im sure you can put two and two together... the reason you use hcg is to get your lh and fsh STIMULATED before pct, so they are not completely bottomed out because when you use test, they are non existent... just like when you run an oral without test... when you go into pct, your test is bottomed out.... when you go into pct using test, AT LEAST its much higher making recovery easier as you reteach your body to produce on its own... so if you use hcg BEFORE pct, then it gives that boost while your body learns how to produce on its own... HOWEVER, if you run hcg IN PCT or after, you end up suppressing yourself because you are just mimicking, not helping to jumpstart anything like nolva and clomid do for your natural testosterone production... NOT TO MENTION, hcg ALSO increases estrogen...

I may have written it wrong and made quite a confusion. What i meant is using it for 4 weeks, and stop before the actual pct of clomid and nolvo. I would start hcg in week 12. And start pct 20 to a month after my last shot depends on my bloodwork so there will be plenty of time for esters to clear out of my system

 

[DylanGemelli]

Hey guys long time no see, I have not been on here for a while because of real life stuff.

My new cycle i have planned to get ready for the summer. I dont really care about being mass monster so to say i will focus more on the Athletic part get to around 11-12% fat im at 14.6 now. The cycle is quite simple I never ran high doses really. My cycle will be 12 maybe 14 weeks of test at 250mg never went past 350, and tbol 40-50mg(sweet spot for me) without feeling like shit, my training buddy is using around 90mg of tbol. How many mgs would you guys run personally?

Layout is
1-5 agian maybe bump it to 6 weeks tbol 40-50mg maybe bump it up to 60 depends of feeling.
1-14 250 or 350mg I think i will be sticking to 250 more is less I guess lol
5-14 gw 10mg because i like cardio a lot.
Aromosin 12.5 eod. Would you run it from day one or wait until a few weeks into the cycle? Personally i always waited.

I will try to use hcg for the first time in pct.

My pct will be the standard pct Dylan told me about years ago.

Have a good day - Chris

yeah, thats not what you wrote... you said " i will try to use hcg in pct for the first time" so unless im missing something about the english language, thats pretty clear you are planning to use it in pct...

 

[Fella Finn]

I like the test dose being lower and that is how I have been using it for quite some time and I have done so much better as opposed to when I would run it much higher. I really like that you are going that route. I would go with 250-300 myself and for the best quality make sure to check out @domestic-supply.com !!

 

[stevesmi]

you can use hcg pre pct, but never in pct

remember hcg is suppressive, so using it is just gonna delay recovery. it doesn't prime anything, just bro science

 

[Tazz]

I completely agree with Dylan here

 

[Mobsterthemod]

How old are you?

 

[ballin2504]

the cycle isn’t bad at all. I’d just throw hcg out the window personally. But let’s get some stats age cycle/training history rough layout of diet maybe

 

[RUCingdsgainz]

Hey guys long time no see, I have not been on here for a while because of real life stuff.

My new cycle i have planned to get ready for the summer. I dont really care about being mass monster so to say i will focus more on the Athletic part get to around 11-12% fat im at 14.6 now. The cycle is quite simple I never ran high doses really. My cycle will be 12 maybe 14 weeks of test at 250mg never went past 350, and tbol 40-50mg(sweet spot for me) without feeling like shit, my training buddy is using around 90mg of tbol. How many mgs would you guys run personally?

Layout is
1-5 agian maybe bump it to 6 weeks tbol 40-50mg maybe bump it up to 60 depends of feeling.
1-14 250 or 350mg I think i will be sticking to 250 more is less I guess lol
5-14 gw 10mg because i like cardio a lot.
Aromosin 12.5 eod. Would you run it from day one or wait until a few weeks into the cycle? Personally i always waited.

I will try to use hcg for the first time in pct.

My pct will be the standard pct Dylan told me about years ago.

Have a good day - Chris

This cycle is very low key and underwhelming to be honest. I like the idea of keeping things mellow but 250 test is a weird number and shoild just be 300mg of test and T-Bol you should only need 4 weeks when people use anything over 4 weeks of an oral your just being greedy and causing unnecessary damage and strain on the body.

Add 1-3 units of HGH as well and I think this cycle would be decent.

In reference to using HCG I have done PCTs with and without HCG and I notice when I use HCG the the last week of my gear injections and a week or two after leading into the chlomid and nolva use I have the easiest recovery. Get the testicles turned on and back to normal size and start the chlomid and Nova.

That’s what I do others may disagree but that’s what I do. I add natural test boosters in as well and I feel it helps with libido. Cialis is also a plus

 

[RickRock]

I would suggest leaving HCG out all together. That stuff causes more harm than good

 

[Shadow]

Do you need that much AI from 250-350/wk of test? And if you've done cycles before, wouldn't you have dialed in when to start taking the AI's? What did you do for your last cycle?

 

[MasonicBodybuilder]

I would increase the GW dose to 20mg per day. Especially since you love cardio. I would be very careful running that much aromasin with a test dose of 250-350mg. You would likely need it less often than EOD at 350mg and may not need it at all at 250mg. I guess it just depends on how sensitive you are but do not crash estrogen.