I need some advice

[charlieg67]

So I was running 300mg test and 300mg tren a week for 2 weeks I started to feel like the sides where to much so I stopped the cycle. Because I wasnt feeling well I went to the doctors just to get some blood work done and my estrogen was 56pg/ml. The doctor gave me some arimadex told me to take 1mg every other day. my question do you think thats a high dose considering im off the cycle? I had caber and aromasin during my cycle but obviously the aromasin was from a bad source. My prolactin was fine though. Anyways I want the estrogen to come down cause I feel like crap mostly anxiety but at the same time I dont want to crash my estrogen.

 

[jp1957]

I take it you didnt take at AI while blasting at 300?

 

[DylanGemelli]

I take it you didnt take at AI while blasting at 300?

i would go the first 7-10 days at 1 mg.. its going to be tough for arimidex to crush your estrogen bro... its far weaker than aromasin and is just a suppressor so when estrogen is elevated, it is especially not nearly as effective... at least 7-10 days then drop to .5 mg eod... i would get bloods done in about a month and see if it is helping as it should... do you have a history of elevated estrogen? when was your last blood test?

 

[charlieg67]

I take it you didnt take at AI while blasting at 300?

I did, I took it

 

[charlieg67]

i would go the first 7-10 days at 1 mg.. its going to be tough for arimidex to crush your estrogen bro... its far weaker than aromasin and is just a suppressor so when estrogen is elevated, it is especially not nearly as effective... at least 7-10 days then drop to .5 mg eod... i would get bloods done in about a month and see if it is helping as it should... do you have a history of elevated estrogen? when was your last blood test?

Awesome, Thats actually basically what the doctor told me to do. Im actually scheduled to get blood done again tuesday so we shall see if its working. And I dont really have a history never had a problem until now. my last blood test was 01/24 thats when he noticed the higher estrogen. Before that 11/28/2016 and everything was within normal range. Since I got off my cycle I started my trt back up Im not sure if that changes anything? Also when you day the first 7-10 days do you mean ED or EOD

 

[DylanGemelli]

Awesome, Thats actually basically what the doctor told me to do. Im actually scheduled to get blood done again tuesday so we shall see if its working. And I dont really have a history never had a problem until now. my last blood test was 01/24 thats when he noticed the higher estrogen. Before that 11/28/2016 and everything was within normal range. Since I got off my cycle I started my trt back up Im not sure if that changes anything? Also when you day the first 7-10 days do you mean ED or EOD

you are not EXTREMELY elevated but you definitely are elevated so i dont feel it necessary to go 1 gram every day but you can absolutely go .5 mg every day which i would probably go with at first then scale back to every other day after that 10 day mark

 

[charlieg67]

you are not EXTREMELY elevated but you definitely are elevated so i dont feel it necessary to go 1 gram every day but you can absolutely go .5 mg every day which i would probably go with at first then scale back to every other day after that 10 day mark

Ok thanks, ive actually been on the arimadex for a week now and have been doing 1g Eod thats what doc said to do. I just didnt want to crash my estrogen thats why I got on here and asked. So basically the arimadex will prevent my body from making new estrogen? Will my body lower the estrogen on its own?

 

[DylanGemelli]

Ok thanks, ive actually been on the arimadex for a week now and have been doing 1g Eod thats what doc said to do. I just didnt want to crash my estrogen thats why I got on here and asked. So basically the arimadex will prevent my body from making new estrogen? Will my body lower the estrogen on its own?

arimidex is merely a suppressor, aromasim is a suicide inhibitor and with elevated estrogen, arimidex will be far less effective than aromasin... once you get it level, it should stay there as long as you are not further adding extra estrogen but your body is just not going to fix it on its own without an ai man...

 

[charlieg67]

arimidex is merely a suppressor, aromasim is a suicide inhibitor and with elevated estrogen, arimidex will be far less effective than aromasin... once you get it level, it should stay there as long as you are not further adding extra estrogen but your body is just not going to fix it on its own without an ai man...

So I need to ask my doc for a AI as well? or shoudl I be fine with just the arimadex at this point?

 

[DylanGemelli]

So I need to ask my doc for a AI as well? or shoudl I be fine with just the arimadex at this point?

Oh boy... bro arimidex is an ai its just far weaker... i cant tell you how your body will react... in gour weeks you need bloodwork tobdetermine if its strong enough

 

[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

did you tell your doctor you were using hormone altering drugs before he drew your bloodwork?

 

[charlieg67]

did you tell your doctor you were using hormone altering drugs before he drew your bloodwork?

yep I did! He told me I recommends me to get off.

 

[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

yep I did! He told me I recommends me to get off.

yep, and theres your answer. TIME OFF... takes time to normalize. To be honest im surprised he gave you anything since he knew what your root cause here was, but hey each doc does things a bit different

 

[charlieg67]

Oh boy... bro arimidex is an ai its just far weaker... i cant tell you how your body will react... in gour weeks you need bloodwork tobdetermine if its strong enough

Ok. Im actually scheduled to get done again this tuesday. It will be just 2 weeks by then so maybe I might just wait a little longer to give it more time. Im defiantly feeling a little better each day. I dont have sore nipples for me its very tired and some anxiety.

 

[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

Ok. Im actually scheduled to get done again this tuesday. It will be just 2 weeks by then so maybe I might just wait a little longer to give it more time. Im defiantly feeling a little better each day. I dont have sore nipples for me its very tired and some anxiety.

just relax, your body is going through a few things here gonna take a little time. run the AIs and things people advised you and with some time this will resolve all for you, you should notice improvements daily

 

[charlieg67]

just relax, your body is going through a few things here gonna take a little time. run the AIs and things people advised you and with some time this will resolve all for you, you should notice improvements daily

I a feeling better thanks man! I guess the biggest reason I got on here was to make sure I dont drop my estrogen to low. sounds like that would hard to do with arimadex

 

[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

I a feeling better thanks man! I guess the biggest reason I got on here was to make sure I dont drop my estrogen to low. sounds like that would hard to do with arimadex

either way your estrogen will bounce back to normal within a short amount of time be it high or low, the body likes to remain in a state of homeostasis

 

[charlieg67]

either way your estrogen will bounce back to normal within a short amount of time be it high or low, the body likes to remain in a state of homeostasis

Thanks. in your opinion what is the avererage normal range for male estrogen? ive read its 20 - 30?

 

[[9oNe6]BillyD@kid]

Thanks. in your opinion what is the avererage normal range for male estrogen? ive read its 20 - 30?

20-40 is what the labs deem as "normal" but the word normal is only of relevance and a person can be normal in their own right @ below 20 and above 40. Cant really answer a black and white question in a world of rainbows. And your levels are only slightly elevated at best, ive seen people 100+ and not have issues but they did not remain at that level for long, which i believe is where the risk lies more in the consistence of elevation not just simply an elevated level at a certain time of day based on certain parameters during that exact moment before drawing bloodwork. Also just to throw this out there ive ran so many bloodworks by now that i know drawing only 1 bloodwork at 1 certain time of the day is like trying to solve a 300 piece puzzle with only having 1 piece

 

[RickRock]

Thanks. in your opinion what is the avererage normal range for male estrogen? ive read its 20 - 30?

That's the ideal range for most, but some are more comfortable at different levels. I feel best with my estrogen in the mid 30s