How much test is too much

[ibleedoranbla]

Re: RE: Re: How much test is too much

for the lucky ones out there that are not gyno prone, they can run it higher and some just dont respond to a lower number like they should or some just dont experience any sides whatsoever with higher test (although that is on the rarer side), it needs to be understood that the general every day person will show far more estrogen conversion, suppression, etc... THATS NOT 100%, so PLEASE understand that HOWEVER as i said, more so than not so, the higher you go the more sides are coming... there's always a sweet spot for every compound where your getting max values and any higher leads to problems, just like vitamins that become toxic at certain levels, etc... if that were not the case there would be no limits on anything we do... some people are lucky enough to be able to tolerate a lot more than others where some react to minuscule amounts... just be aware of the "more is better concept" and how truly flawed that it is... it depends on the compound etc...

for instance, when i run a cycle, on paper you see 800 mg of eq and 800 mg of primo and initially you say "wow, that's a crazy amount!" but is it? no, not even close.. these are two of the mildest compounds you can find carrying the lowest amount of sides and this is where they are most effective... you won't see me using tren, deca, npp, or anything of that nature over 300 - 400 mg... (i learned my lesson on that) and there's a reason for that... health and longevity... thinking in the long term and not always the now... wanting to get the most i can out of a cycle with the smallest amount of side effects or strain on my internal self... you need to always look at this when doing anything in this lifestyle because health and longevity is far more important than anything else you do

Hey Dylan, what do you think about the AGguys aromasin I have stashed? Think it's any good or crap? Did you use it much or at all?


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It depends on how old it is. The newer stuff is complete crap. The older stuff was decent. Maybe slightly underdosed but it worked it dosed higher

Hmm, older as in a year ago or older? I guess it was only about a year or so since I repped.


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I have some ag guys aromasin stashed that I got about 1.5 years ago. I used it for a prohormome cycle I ran at the beginning of this year and I did bloods 2 weeks post cycle and my test was in the 900s and my estrogen in perfect range. I'm on my first test cycle right now and I started using their aromasin at the beginning of the cycle and at about 4 weeks in I had to stop it completely because I felt absolutely miserable. I don't have bloods to confirm it but I'm positive that it crushed my estrogen but I'm also on 75mg of proviron.

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[JackSteel]

for the lucky ones out there that are not gyno prone, they can run it higher and some just dont respond to a lower number like they should or some just dont experience any sides whatsoever with higher test (although that is on the rarer side), it needs to be understood that the general every day person will show far more estrogen conversion, suppression, etc... THATS NOT 100%, so PLEASE understand that HOWEVER as i said, more so than not so, the higher you go the more sides are coming... there's always a sweet spot for every compound where your getting max values and any higher leads to problems, just like vitamins that become toxic at certain levels, etc... if that were not the case there would be no limits on anything we do... some people are lucky enough to be able to tolerate a lot more than others where some react to minuscule amounts... just be aware of the "more is better concept" and how truly flawed that it is... it depends on the compound etc...

for instance, when i run a cycle, on paper you see 800 mg of eq and 800 mg of primo and initially you say "wow, that's a crazy amount!" but is it? no, not even close.. these are two of the mildest compounds you can find carrying the lowest amount of sides and this is where they are most effective... you won't see me using tren, deca, npp, or anything of that nature over 300 - 400 mg... (i learned my lesson on that) and there's a reason for that... health and longevity... thinking in the long term and not always the now... wanting to get the most i can out of a cycle with the smallest amount of side effects or strain on my internal self... you need to always look at this when doing anything in this lifestyle because health and longevity is far more important than anything else you do

Hey Dylan, what do you think about the AGguys aromasin I have stashed? Think it's any good or crap? Did you use it much or at all?


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It depends on how old it is. The newer stuff is complete crap. The older stuff was decent. Maybe slightly underdosed but it worked it dosed higher

Hmm, older as in a year ago or older? I guess it was only about a year or so since I repped.


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Yes, I would say it needs to be at least a year old, if not more. Basically when they started changing the labels it went to shit

The white and blue paper labels? Lol


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[JackSteel]

for the lucky ones out there that are not gyno prone, they can run it higher and some just dont respond to a lower number like they should or some just dont experience any sides whatsoever with higher test (although that is on the rarer side), it needs to be understood that the general every day person will show far more estrogen conversion, suppression, etc... THATS NOT 100%, so PLEASE understand that HOWEVER as i said, more so than not so, the higher you go the more sides are coming... there's always a sweet spot for every compound where your getting max values and any higher leads to problems, just like vitamins that become toxic at certain levels, etc... if that were not the case there would be no limits on anything we do... some people are lucky enough to be able to tolerate a lot more than others where some react to minuscule amounts... just be aware of the "more is better concept" and how truly flawed that it is... it depends on the compound etc...

for instance, when i run a cycle, on paper you see 800 mg of eq and 800 mg of primo and initially you say "wow, that's a crazy amount!" but is it? no, not even close.. these are two of the mildest compounds you can find carrying the lowest amount of sides and this is where they are most effective... you won't see me using tren, deca, npp, or anything of that nature over 300 - 400 mg... (i learned my lesson on that) and there's a reason for that... health and longevity... thinking in the long term and not always the now... wanting to get the most i can out of a cycle with the smallest amount of side effects or strain on my internal self... you need to always look at this when doing anything in this lifestyle because health and longevity is far more important than anything else you do

Hey Dylan, what do you think about the AGguys aromasin I have stashed? Think it's any good or crap? Did you use it much or at all?


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It depends on how old it is. The newer stuff is complete crap. The older stuff was decent. Maybe slightly underdosed but it worked it dosed higher

Hmm, older as in a year ago or older? I guess it was only about a year or so since I repped.


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I have some ag guys aromasin stashed that I got about 1.5 years ago. I used it for a prohormome cycle I ran at the beginning of this year and I did bloods 2 weeks post cycle and my test was in the 900s and my estrogen in perfect range. I'm on my first test cycle right now and I started using their aromasin at the beginning of the cycle and at about 4 weeks in I had to stop it completely because I felt absolutely miserable. I don't have bloods to confirm it but I'm positive that it crushed my estrogen but I'm also on 75mg of proviron.

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What does the label look like?


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[ibleedoranbla]

Re: RE: Re: How much test is too much

for the lucky ones out there that are not gyno prone, they can run it higher and some just dont respond to a lower number like they should or some just dont experience any sides whatsoever with higher test (although that is on the rarer side), it needs to be understood that the general every day person will show far more estrogen conversion, suppression, etc... THATS NOT 100%, so PLEASE understand that HOWEVER as i said, more so than not so, the higher you go the more sides are coming... there's always a sweet spot for every compound where your getting max values and any higher leads to problems, just like vitamins that become toxic at certain levels, etc... if that were not the case there would be no limits on anything we do... some people are lucky enough to be able to tolerate a lot more than others where some react to minuscule amounts... just be aware of the "more is better concept" and how truly flawed that it is... it depends on the compound etc...

for instance, when i run a cycle, on paper you see 800 mg of eq and 800 mg of primo and initially you say "wow, that's a crazy amount!" but is it? no, not even close.. these are two of the mildest compounds you can find carrying the lowest amount of sides and this is where they are most effective... you won't see me using tren, deca, npp, or anything of that nature over 300 - 400 mg... (i learned my lesson on that) and there's a reason for that... health and longevity... thinking in the long term and not always the now... wanting to get the most i can out of a cycle with the smallest amount of side effects or strain on my internal self... you need to always look at this when doing anything in this lifestyle because health and longevity is far more important than anything else you do

Hey Dylan, what do you think about the AGguys aromasin I have stashed? Think it's any good or crap? Did you use it much or at all?


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It depends on how old it is. The newer stuff is complete crap. The older stuff was decent. Maybe slightly underdosed but it worked it dosed higher

Hmm, older as in a year ago or older? I guess it was only about a year or so since I repped.


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I have some ag guys aromasin stashed that I got about 1.5 years ago. I used it for a prohormome cycle I ran at the beginning of this year and I did bloods 2 weeks post cycle and my test was in the 900s and my estrogen in perfect range. I'm on my first test cycle right now and I started using their aromasin at the beginning of the cycle and at about 4 weeks in I had to stop it completely because I felt absolutely miserable. I don't have bloods to confirm it but I'm positive that it crushed my estrogen but I'm also on 75mg of proviron.

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What does the label look like?


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I'm pretty sure it's just a white label that says liquiaroma on it. It's 15mg/ml, I can take a picture later tonight when I get home.

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[DylanGemelli]

for the lucky ones out there that are not gyno prone, they can run it higher and some just dont respond to a lower number like they should or some just dont experience any sides whatsoever with higher test (although that is on the rarer side), it needs to be understood that the general every day person will show far more estrogen conversion, suppression, etc... THATS NOT 100%, so PLEASE understand that HOWEVER as i said, more so than not so, the higher you go the more sides are coming... there's always a sweet spot for every compound where your getting max values and any higher leads to problems, just like vitamins that become toxic at certain levels, etc... if that were not the case there would be no limits on anything we do... some people are lucky enough to be able to tolerate a lot more than others where some react to minuscule amounts... just be aware of the "more is better concept" and how truly flawed that it is... it depends on the compound etc...

for instance, when i run a cycle, on paper you see 800 mg of eq and 800 mg of primo and initially you say "wow, that's a crazy amount!" but is it? no, not even close.. these are two of the mildest compounds you can find carrying the lowest amount of sides and this is where they are most effective... you won't see me using tren, deca, npp, or anything of that nature over 300 - 400 mg... (i learned my lesson on that) and there's a reason for that... health and longevity... thinking in the long term and not always the now... wanting to get the most i can out of a cycle with the smallest amount of side effects or strain on my internal self... you need to always look at this when doing anything in this lifestyle because health and longevity is far more important than anything else you do

Hey Dylan, what do you think about the AGguys aromasin I have stashed? Think it's any good or crap? Did you use it much or at all?


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thats really hard to say brother... my guess is that even then, its hit and miss as you always had such mixed reports on it... personally, i don't trust their shit regardless and especially to have it sitting that long... in my opinion i would not use it

 

[RickRock]

Re: RE: Re: How much test is too much

for the lucky ones out there that are not gyno prone, they can run it higher and some just dont respond to a lower number like they should or some just dont experience any sides whatsoever with higher test (although that is on the rarer side), it needs to be understood that the general every day person will show far more estrogen conversion, suppression, etc... THATS NOT 100%, so PLEASE understand that HOWEVER as i said, more so than not so, the higher you go the more sides are coming... there's always a sweet spot for every compound where your getting max values and any higher leads to problems, just like vitamins that become toxic at certain levels, etc... if that were not the case there would be no limits on anything we do... some people are lucky enough to be able to tolerate a lot more than others where some react to minuscule amounts... just be aware of the "more is better concept" and how truly flawed that it is... it depends on the compound etc...

for instance, when i run a cycle, on paper you see 800 mg of eq and 800 mg of primo and initially you say "wow, that's a crazy amount!" but is it? no, not even close.. these are two of the mildest compounds you can find carrying the lowest amount of sides and this is where they are most effective... you won't see me using tren, deca, npp, or anything of that nature over 300 - 400 mg... (i learned my lesson on that) and there's a reason for that... health and longevity... thinking in the long term and not always the now... wanting to get the most i can out of a cycle with the smallest amount of side effects or strain on my internal self... you need to always look at this when doing anything in this lifestyle because health and longevity is far more important than anything else you do

Hey Dylan, what do you think about the AGguys aromasin I have stashed? Think it's any good or crap? Did you use it much or at all?


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It depends on how old it is. The newer stuff is complete crap. The older stuff was decent. Maybe slightly underdosed but it worked it dosed higher

Hmm, older as in a year ago or older? I guess it was only about a year or so since I repped.


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Yes, I would say it needs to be at least a year old, if not more. Basically when they started changing the labels it went to shit

The white and blue paper labels? Lol


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Yes I think that's right. The main that changed was the letters on the label got much larger. If you have big letters on there (ALL CAPS) then its probably total shit. At least that's when mine became shit