dianabol/winstrol advice

[jarur1]

This will be my first cycle.

my stats:
- 1.78 cm
- 80 kilos
- 22 years.

Goal: gain a little bit of size and a lot of strenght. Mid-time my Cycle , cut down with Winstrol so you will see more definition (i dont want to get fat).

My plan:
first 4 weeks: 30mg dianabol
last 4 weeks: 30mg winstrol
After this cycles im using nolvadex 6-7 weeks 20mg.

Can i have your advice based on my stats/goal and plan

 

[RackcityArms]

Not a bad cycle, but I would add 20mgs cardarine to the cycle ED. For pct, add clomid 25mgs/ed.

Research:
https://www.isarms.com/cardarine-gw-501516

 

[BigDaddyDelicious]

I don't really like the cycle. First you start with a very wet compound, and then you finish off with a dry cutter. Seems like you want to gain wet bulk first, and then lose this weight basically. It is much more reasonable to use one single slow bulker, and reach the same results without these gains and drops in mass. For instance, you will benefit much more from Turinabol, which will end up giving you the same results - lean and sustainable mass gains.

 

[jarur1]

I dont want to get wet, these are the 2 anabolic steroid i have acces to at the moment. So my plan with these two is, first build some strenght and after 4 weeks dry down, so you will see definitions. This is my first cycle, so a alternative plan or advice is welcome☺

 

[BigDaddyDelicious]

Well, first of all - all of these objectives can be achieved with just one compound. Dianabol is not suitable for what you want, as there will be a lot of water retention and bloating. Winstrol is not the best choice, because it is mainly a cosmetic steroid, and its effects won't be noticeable unless you have a BF% lower than 10-12%. Besides, with orals you must always use a liver protecting supplement, as they are almost always liver toxic. Also, with dianabol you must use an AI from the first day of the cycle, such as Aromasin at 10 mgs EOD. Nolvadex alone is not even close to being enough for PCT. You would additionally have to use clomid, some natty test booster, and Ostarine MK-2866. Otherwise, your body will have a hard time recovering, and you will lose most of the gains. The recommended cycle would look like this:

Turinabol or Anavar at 40 mgs per day for 6-8 weeks. A liver support must be used all along. With both of these steroids an AI is not necessary. Then do PCT with nolvadex, clomid, natty test booster, and Ostarine MK-2866.

Why don't you have access to other compounds? It is not a good idea to use certain compound just because you only have access to them.