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Cycle question

jrodburn

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Hey Dylan,
I'm about to run my first cycle of gear and have been watching a ton of your videos. My question is would you mind looking at my cycle I'm going to run and give me your input?
 
Go ahead and post it up along with your stats (age, height, weight, training experience, etc).

P.S. If its a cycle of orals only, then you will want to continue your research and come up with a new cycle before posting it. Otherwise you will get flayed since oral only cycles are not good.

P.P.S. Testosterone only first cycles are the best intro to AAS you can have. Use that as a starting point.
 
Hey Dylan,
I'm about to run my first cycle of gear and have been watching a ton of your videos. My question is would you mind looking at my cycle I'm going to run and give me your input?

I appreciate everyone's constructive criticism. I'm going to run my first cycle, and I've done more research then I should admit, but as you all know on certain areas you get conflicting opinions so I'm looking for some wisdom.

I'm 39 years old and have been lifting for 20 years. I'm 5'20, 211 pounds and 15% bodyfat.
Here is what I've put together with a few questions at the end:
weeks 1-4 dbol 20-20-30-30 (ed)
weeks 1-12 test e 500mg (split in 2 doses Monday/Thursday)
weeks 1-4 arimidex 0.5 ed
weeks 5-15 arimedex 0.5 eod
weeks 2-16 hCG 1,000 i.u.'s (split in 2 doses)
weeks 13-15 - 3 week gap
weeks 16-18 - clomid 100/100/100 (ed)
weeks 16-19 - nolva 20/20/20/20 (ed)

Question 1: Am I running to much Arimidex?
Question 2: Am I running to much HCG? Does it matter the days I inject these?

Thank you everyone!
 
only use test as first cycle, like 300mg, use aromasin instead of adex (12.5mg EOD to start), your PCT needs work,

pct-


clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day

I would tend to agree with this. My first cycle was 350mg/wk and that was after a few yrs of TRT at 140mg/week. The smart thing about starting test only is that you can see how you react to that single compound. Let say that you start your test/dbol cycle and then start to have some issues (injection problems, AAS side affects like acne, elevated E2, water retention, etc.), how do you know which compound is to blame and how do you adjust?

As for the HCG, I personally inject a few days after I inject my test. Most will tell you that you should probably only use HCG the last weeks of your cycle. Since I am on TRT i dont follow the typical "HCG during cycle". Instead I run it for a month and then take a few months off to prevent desensitization. Perhaps someone not on TRT can give you a different perspective.

Ive used both aromasin and arimidex to control E2 sucessfully but now I opt to use aromasin only. It is more neutral as far as cholesterol effects (some AIs can increase LDL or decrease HDL) and since it is a suicide inhibitor you dont run the risk of estrogen rebound like with arimidex.

One piece of advice........get pre cycle labs done. You can get Test, E2, and general metabolism labs relatively cheap (roughly $60) through places like privatemdlabs.com. Trust me, you will appreciate this later as you will be able to do mid-cycle bloods to ensure compound quality and post cycle bloods to make sure you recover.
 
I appreciate everyone's constructive criticism. I'm going to run my first cycle, and I've done more research then I should admit, but as you all know on certain areas you get conflicting opinions so I'm looking for some wisdom.

I'm 39 years old and have been lifting for 20 years. I'm 5'20, 211 pounds and 15% bodyfat.
Here is what I've put together with a few questions at the end:
weeks 1-4 dbol 20-20-30-30 (ed)
weeks 1-12 test e 500mg (split in 2 doses Monday/Thursday)
weeks 1-4 arimidex 0.5 ed
weeks 5-15 arimedex 0.5 eod
weeks 2-16 hCG 1,000 i.u.'s (split in 2 doses)
weeks 13-15 - 3 week gap
weeks 16-18 - clomid 100/100/100 (ed)
weeks 16-19 - nolva 20/20/20/20 (ed)

Question 1: Am I running to much Arimidex?
Question 2: Am I running to much HCG? Does it matter the days I inject these?

Thank you everyone!

hey bro, thats FAR beyond too much hcg... thats an absurd amount and THAT WILL HURT YOU... it will shut you down further, increase estrogen, you will desensitize, etc... DO NOT exceed 4 weeks of hcg use... you also do not need dbol here...

what are your goals from the cycle? let me knjow and i'll lay everything out top to bottom...

aromasin would be a much better choice as well and your pct definitely needs work... let me know your goals and ill fix everything for you
 
I appreciate everyone's constructive criticism. I'm going to run my first cycle, and I've done more research then I should admit, but as you all know on certain areas you get conflicting opinions so I'm looking for some wisdom.

I'm 39 years old and have been lifting for 20 years. I'm 5'20, 211 pounds and 15% bodyfat.
Here is what I've put together with a few questions at the end:
weeks 1-4 dbol 20-20-30-30 (ed)
weeks 1-12 test e 500mg (split in 2 doses Monday/Thursday)
weeks 1-4 arimidex 0.5 ed
weeks 5-15 arimedex 0.5 eod
weeks 2-16 hCG 1,000 i.u.'s (split in 2 doses)
weeks 13-15 - 3 week gap
weeks 16-18 - clomid 100/100/100 (ed)
weeks 16-19 - nolva 20/20/20/20 (ed)

Question 1: Am I running to much Arimidex?
Question 2: Am I running to much HCG? Does it matter the days I inject these?

Thank you everyone!

Switch out the arimadex for Aromasin on cycle and run it 12.5mg EOD. For a first cycle drop the dbol and just run test for 12 weeks

As Dylan said, your hcg use is way excessive. You need to only use that the last 3 or 4 weeks of the cycle

As for pct, I would suggest using this


https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/platinum-pct-stack

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK-2866 25mg ED
GW 20mg ED



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