Cycle/PCT/Gyno question

[rebeerter]

Hey Dylan, I am going to keep this short and sweet (kind of)


few years ago I did a cycle without much research, got good gains, and of course lost them all because no PCT was used... young and dumb oh well.. Now I know going ahead


I got bad gyno but I am living with it. Maybe there is something I can take to slowly reverse? If not thats okay I will make sure I add arimidex on my next cycle while I am taking dbol.


This being said, I am looking at starting a new cycle in a few days being: Dbol + Test E 250 + Deca 250


Dbol 30mg ed weeks 1-4

Arimidex 1mg eod weeks 1-4

Test E (400mg wk) 1-12

Deca (400mg ek) 1-12


Ideally this time I would like to KEEP SOME/MOST of the gains, I am quite okay with losing some or a lot of it to be honest but would rather have a PCT that is most effective for me and this cycle. Could you recommend me a PCT?


I watched your PCT video but just cant get some of the items you have listed.

 

[DylanGemelli]

here's your problem... you dont really know what youare doing... arimidex with dbol and deca bro? not good... you should try to fix your gyno FIRST before you run any sort of cycle... what are your stats? age/height/weight/body fat? i can help you with a gyno reversal protocol... you dont even have anything listed for prolactin protection with deca brother? you see what im saying?

 

[rebeerter]

here's your problem... you dont really know what youare doing... arimidex with dbol and deca bro? not good... you should try to fix your gyno FIRST before you run any sort of cycle... what are your stats? age/height/weight/body fat? i can help you with a gyno reversal protocol... you dont even have anything listed for prolactin protection with deca brother? you see what im saying?

Thanks for the Reply, See my problem I guess was everyone telling me something different and researching online at the time was also giving different answers so to add more info:

Age - 27
Height -188 cm / 6'2
weight currently - 175 lbs
Body fat - not sure, but about 12% on assumption

Recommendation and dose for prolactin protection?
Also recommendation for estrogen blocker if Arimidex is no good with this?

Thanks for the reply

 

[RickRock]

With those stats you haven't even built the proper foundation for cycling yet. You need to put in the time and work bro. Right now you have nothing to show for it. Your connective tissues aren't ready for steroid use. On top of that you have gyno, which alone needs treated before you ever even consider a cycle. Have you had any bloodwork done?

 

[rebeerter]

Ive had bloodwork done before, everything was fine they told me, aside from my liver, which is only "slightly" noticed from tests, I never had any issues with prolactin
Ive cycled before and cant seem to get a foundation even when off cycle so thats why I have done it. But now I am in the mentality that since I juiced before, I have to juice again

ON the past cycle I got up to 205 seemed to work great, only side was gyno which I still have. I am just tempted to cycle again because I feel like I will get same or better results, I just want to work on gyno prevention and also a proper pct

 

[rebeerter]

Would be interested in reversing the gyno I have now before I start if possible also.. Thanks

 

[rebeerter]

Hmm other post did not go through

I was also going to say that I had bloodwork done and there was no issues, and back then I had tried a few different mixes and varied doses, based on what other people told me. glad I did not suffer from it, only got gyno, which honestly doesnt bother me but would like to have it removed.

Also I never had an issue with prolactin on cycle. And if I should not take arimidex with dbol and deca, what estrogen blocker would you recommend so I don't get more gyno?

Thanks

 

[DylanGemelli]

your post all came through just fine? you have the WRONG mentality... your 6'2 175 man... you are going to hurt yourself internally without a proper base... at 6'2, you should be 190 at least and thats still quite thin man... you are way too thin right now...
lets start with your gyno and you actually eating something and building some sort of a foundation OR you can do it YOUR way and just run the cycle and it will probably be one of your last... thats up to you... if you feel you know more than me and everyone else then you can do it your way man... just let me know but if you do it your way, i want nothing to do with it... i dont contribute to people wrecking themselves...

 

[rebeerter]

I dont think I know more than anyone I am just telling you guys that this is what I have done before, this is where I am at now, and I have no sides, other than gyno. What would be a good way to reverse it? And Im I able to even grow naturally after cycling? I never even took a PCT years ago so I dont even know if I am back to normal to even start, this is why I seek answers LOL. cant find these details online

 

[DylanGemelli]

you can run cycles etc.. but you need to go about this the right way... of course you can grow... clearly you can grow only weighing 175 lbs and your height... your diet is clearly needing work...

for your anti gyno protocol, its 12 weeks total... 8 weeks of letro and aromasin followed by 4 weeks of aromasin... start week 1 of letro at 1.25 mg per day, then weeks 2 and 3 bump it to 1.75 mg per day, weeks 4,5,6 run it 2.5 mg per day, week 7 down to 1.75 and week 8, back to 1.25... run nolvadex 20 mg per day the entire 8 weeks, then follow that with 4 weeks or aromasin at 12.5 mg every other day... you can get everything at www.sarmsx.com

 

[rebeerter]

Yeah I havent trained in a few years and let my diet go, I do train and diet appropriate when I am gym active but this was because of cycling before which pushed me to

Thanks for the details I appreciate the help, I will get my gyno reversed before my next cycle.

So no arimidex with dbol/deca, What would be the better estrogen block you would use?

Thanks again admin

 

[DylanGemelli]

your welcome bro... bro, im not advising you on steroids right now... unreal... you havent even been in the gym??? you need steroids to get you in the gym??? come on brother! wtf? you will lose everyones respect with that attitude and you can't just jump on steroids without training in years... i swear bro, im so busy and im spending extra time on you and your starting to make me frustrated to the point im just going to give up and move on... your not listening.. if you ask me about steroids again, im just done, period...

 

[rebeerter]

Hey man, I am just a guy asking questions im being honest and upfront, why would I say something you want to hear? How is that getting rightful information, there could be others in my situation so I figured to be honest. Thanks for answering most of my questions I appreciate that

 

[DylanGemelli]

Hey man, I am just a guy asking questions im being honest and upfront, why would I say something you want to hear? How is that getting rightful information, there could be others in my situation so I figured to be honest. Thanks for answering most of my questions I appreciate that

you are asking about using steroids in a circumstance where they will hurt you... i'll help you with whatever you need when the time is right, you clearly know that but im not contributing to fucking you up brother... thats not what i do... i have ethics that i believe in... i want to help you GET RIGHT, not make shit worse

 

[rebeerter]

Well that is very much appreciated thank you. I will take your advice and reverse what I have and build up a better foundation before taking anything else.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Well that is very much appreciated thank you. I will take your advice and reverse what I have and build up a better foundation before taking anything else.

brother, im not a dick trust me... im the guy that actually gives a fuck about everyone... most guys would just tell you "fuck it, run it anyway" things like that... they DONT CARE ABOUT YOU... i actually do... so i just want to make sure you realize that... i have a responsibility to YOU and TO EVERYONE else to make sure you guys are safe... if this protocol doesn't work, then unfortunately you will need surgery.. this is very aggressive but it has worked for some... its just hard to say with gyno but its definitely worth a shot man

 

[rebeerter]

True. I am in Canada and I can get it covered but I will do the reversal first and its not a big issue with my day to day so hopefully it works for me aswell. Thanks for caring about well being! It just gets really hard when you have multiple people/forums giving you contradicting advice

 

[DylanGemelli]

True. I am in Canada and I can get it covered but I will do the reversal first and its not a big issue with my day to day so hopefully it works for me aswell. Thanks for caring about well being! It just gets really hard when you have multiple people/forums giving you contradicting advice

i completely understand... i give it to you straight brother, always, whether you want to hear it or not but i always have your back... if you have questions anytime just let me know

 

[rebeerter]

Sounds good! I will be in touch in the future for sure. good luck and thanks a trillion!

 

[DylanGemelli]

Sounds good! I will be in touch in the future for sure. good luck and thanks a trillion!

your very welcome brother