Cutting Only Advice

[beeflos]

Hi Dylan, been reading and watching your stuff in as much volume as I can find. Hoping I can ask for a few moments of your time for some advice for a noob.


I'm exploring S4 for fat loss only. My muscle and strength are fine, but I have always had issues with fat despite excellent training and diet. So, I am not looking for strength or muscle gains as much as something that will specifically help me lose fat without losing muscle. I have slightly HBP so I can't use any stimulants.


What is your opinion on using S4 specifically for fat loss (not just a couple trouble pounds, but 5%+ of body weight)? Is it advised or would you recommend some other (possibly even not a SARM) approach keeping in mind I have to avoid stimulants?


Hey, I really appreciate your expertise and your advise. Thanks for your time.

 

[SpikedEggnog]

for fat loss I would recommend GW or SR9009

 

[jp1957]

S4 coupled with GW and SR is an excellent combo for fat loss and keeping muscle loss to a minimum

 

[RickRock]

Hi Dylan, been reading and watching your stuff in as much volume as I can find. Hoping I can ask for a few moments of your time for some advice for a noob.


I'm exploring S4 for fat loss only. My muscle and strength are fine, but I have always had issues with fat despite excellent training and diet. So, I am not looking for strength or muscle gains as much as something that will specifically help me lose fat without losing muscle. I have slightly HBP so I can't use any stimulants.


What is your opinion on using S4 specifically for fat loss (not just a couple trouble pounds, but 5%+ of body weight)? Is it advised or would you recommend some other (possibly even not a SARM) approach keeping in mind I have to avoid stimulants?


Hey, I really appreciate your expertise and your advise. Thanks for your time.

The perfct stack for you is going to be the shred stack. S4 is right in tune for what you are wanting, but you really need to add GW and SR9009 for the kind of fat loss you are looking for.

Here is the protocol for that

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/shred-stack-12-weeks-2

1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 SR-9009 30mg per day (5mg dosed 6 times every 2-3 hours)

PCT

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/sarms-mini-pct-stack-1

Clomid 50/25/25/25
GW 20mg per day




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[beeflos]

Thanks all. I read SR9009 builds new mitos in the muscle cells - does this mean metabolic benefits continue after cycle?

Also, it seems very new and relatively untested - any concerns with this?

 

[DylanGemelli]

there are no concerns... its not THAT new and we have been using it on the forum for quite some time now and enough to know what its capable of and how it works... its perfectly fine to use with no adverse effects... the six pack stack is going to be so strong for cutting but the enhanced super stack is going to be even stronger... it just depends on you but with your goals, i feel that the six pack stack will be plenty... here are the links for everything you need followed by the layout...

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=142&search=six+pack

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=138&search=mini



1-12 sr9009 30 mg day... 5 mg split doses 2-3 hours apart
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout and non workout days, all at once in the a.m.
9-12 d aspartic acid


Mini pct 13-16




clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[MissBizz]

there are no concerns... its not THAT new and we have been using it on the forum for quite some time now and enough to know what its capable of and how it works... its perfectly fine to use with no adverse effects... the six pack stack is going to be so strong for cutting but the enhanced super stack is going to be even stronger... it just depends on you but with your goals, i feel that the six pack stack will be plenty... here are the links for everything you need followed by the layout...

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=142&search=six+pack

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=138&search=mini



1-12 sr9009 30 mg day... 5 mg split doses 2-3 hours apart
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout and non workout days, all at once in the a.m.
9-12 d aspartic acid


Mini pct 13-16




clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day

^^^^ this right here! This is what you should go with for your goal of fat loss!!!

MissBizz

 

[DylanGemelli]

let me know if you have any further questions!

 

[BigJohnMcCarthy]

The 6pack stack and shred stack the same just different price?

 

[DylanGemelli]

The 6pack stack and shred stack the same just different price?

well shit, they made a mistake on the site... good call bro... its the exact same so get the shred stack since its a little bit cheaper... not sure who made the error there but they are definitely the same thing..

 

[beeflos]

Is there an alternative to GW for the mini PCT under this protocol?

 

[RickRock]

Is there an alternative to GW for the mini PCT under this protocol?

No there isn't bro. GW is a unique compound with recovery benefits that will lower and control cortisol post cycle


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[beeflos]

Will any of the benefits/gains reverse once cycle is complete - will body begin to store morefat, will dryness from S4 go away with time, etc? I guess what I'm asking is I like the results, do I need to do this protocol periodically to retain them?

 

[DylanGemelli]

bro YOU control what you gain and lose... common sense tells you that anytime you take a msucle hardener you are going to lose some of that... that would be with any hardener, winstrol, mast, s4 etc. but s4 is FAR more retainable than any steroid but you would always want to run another cycle to continue to add to your gains... noone runs one cycle and then just stops unless they physically cannot handle it... sarms gains are FAR more retainable than steroids

 

[beeflos]

thanks all !!! I'm about to order on SARMSX.com, is there a coupon code or anything you all know of?

 

[RickRock]

thanks all !!! I'm about to order on SARMSX.com, is there a coupon code or anything you all know of?

There are no coupon codes, but if you click on the discounts tab at the top of the page you can find offers for buy two get one free and buy three get two free that will give you multi bottle discounts on compounds

(PM me for a price list for Biotech Labs and 10% discount)

 

[DylanGemelli]

thanks all !!! I'm about to order on SARMSX.com, is there a coupon code or anything you all know of?

no bro, but here is a discount page... https://www.sarmsx.com/30-off