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    Can you smell your gear...?

    Not perverted or anything....lol....but can anybody else smell the compound after itís been injected? No seepage, injection site is dry and still minutes afterwards I can smell it.

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    I can smell the carrier oil sometimes if that's what you're asking.

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    Haven't ever smelled it to be honest.

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    Depends what it is

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    ive never smelled anything with mine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus146 View Post
    Not perverted or anything....lol....but can anybody else smell the compound after itís been injected? No seepage, injection site is dry and still minutes afterwards I can smell it.
    What you're initially smelling/tasting is the solvents and sometimes Guaiacol (smells and taste awful if that's one of the carrier oils).. Last but not least you can sometimes taste vitamin B if some injections have it in their carrier oils much like the old Reforvit-B vert grade injectable Dbol.

    In most cause you're simple tasting the solvents bb/ba by way of lipid compound fatty acid cells that carry the solvents through your blood stream and they get excreted through the lungs/respiratory system, so it's on your breath so to speak, giving you a sense of tasting/smelling it..It's common with most injections to be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackSteel View Post
    Depends what it is
    Tren A....I thought maybe the potency had something to do with me being able to smell something

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vision View Post
    What you're initially smelling/tasting is the solvents and sometimes Guaiacol (smells and taste awful if that's one of the carrier oils).. Last but not least you can sometimes taste vitamin B if some injections have it in their carrier oils much like the old Reforvit-B vert grade injectable Dbol.

    In most cause you're simple tasting the solvents bb/ba by way of lipid compound fatty acid cells that carry the solvents through your blood stream and they get excreted through the lungs/respiratory system, so it's on your breath so to speak, giving you a sense of tasting/smelling it..It's common with most injections to be honest.
    Never really noticed any tastes but my mouth does get watery afterwards....but the smell is definitely prevalent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximus146 View Post
    Tren A....I thought maybe the potency had something to do with me being able to smell something
    Max, Potency really has nothing to do with the tren itself and this reaction..

    Why does this take place? What is the causes and effects? Can this be avoided?

    Thereís a few variables that can be taking place here in regards to the symptoms that one feels almost immediately post IM, ranging from trouble breathing, mild to violent coughing fits, eyes watering, mild to extreme flush feeling, feeling dizzy or faint, pressure in the chest,ext ext. This can last anywhere from 1-3 mins, and at times 5-10 mins (some cases have been reported lasting for days with random coughing fits)..I often hear people advocate that itís the acetate ester,or most with Tren period..Itís not entire true, but there is some truth behind that, Iíll explain more later..

    However,This can happen with any compound regardless of the ester..


    What is the cause and effects?


    Like I stated prior,thereís a few reasons you could experience this..Iíll start with the leading one!
    Itís known as

    ďPOMEĒ Pulmonary oil microembolism..

    What is that? Itís simply a case of acute respiratory distress and hypoxemia,following the accidental intravenous injection of an oil steroid solution (Iíll enclose a study on this)..The oil solution is carried through the blood stream making is way to the lungs, in which the reaction of coughing is simply your bodies way of clearing it out!
    Speaking of solution, Benzyl Benzoate (BB is found present in MOST UGL products) Is an other agent thatís known for causing respiratory distress, which in this is temporary acute onset of ďAnaphylaxisĒ (Iíll enclose a study on this as well)..


    Can this be avoid?
    Not really because this can happen just from passing through a vein,but itís great practice to aspirate in areas that are prone to posses more veins and arteries!

    Why does this seem to happen most when it pertains to Trenbolone?
    Trenbolone increases the rise of prostaglandin production which can have great influence over bronchial constriction..
    What are prostaglandins? There group of hormone-like lipid compounds/cells that are derived enzymatically from fatty acids that are precursors of Cyclooxygenase & Lipoxygenase..
    Lipoxygenase has some dictation through pathways which is expressed through branches of bronchi, in the entire respiratory system..When the Cox-2 (lipo) levels increase it tends to have restriction or expulsion in the respiratory region..Thus,this is what dicates the ďTren coughĒ..

    This tends to happen more with the Ace ester as it cause a faster metabolization and a faster rise with the prostaglandin levels!

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    Pulmonary Oil Microembolism (POME) and Anaphylaxis in Controlled Clinical Studies
    Medical Editor:
    John P. Cunha, DO, FACOEP

    Adverse events attributable to pulmonary oil microembolism and
    anaphylaxiswere reported in a small number of patients in controlled clinical trials. In the 84-week clinical trial of Aveed, 1 patient experienced a mild coughing fit lasting 10 minutes after his third injection, which was retrospectively attributed to POME. In another clinical trial of intramuscular testosterone undecanoate (1000 mg), a hypogonadal male patient experienced the urge to cough and respiratory distress at 1 minute after his tenth injection, which was also retrospectively attributed to POME.
    During a review that involved adjudication of all cases meeting specific criteria, 9 POME events in 8 patients and 2 events of anaphylaxis among 3,556 patients treated with intramuscular testosterone undecanoate in 18 clinical trials were judged to have occurred.
    Postmarketing Experience

    The following adverse reactions have been identified during post-approval use of Aveed. Because the reactions are reported voluntarily from a population of uncertain size, it is not always possible to reliably estimate their frequency or establish a causal relationship to drug exposure.
    Pulmonary Oil Microembolism (POME) and Anaphylaxis
    Serious pulmonary oil microembolism (POME) reactions, involving cough, urge to cough,
    dyspnea, hyperhidrosis, throat tightening, chest pain, dizziness, andsyncope, have been reported to occur during or immediately after the injection of intramuscular testosterone undecanoate 1000 mg (4 mL) in post-approval use outside the United States. The majority of these events lasted a few minutes and resolved with supportive measures; however, some lasted up to several hours and some required emergency care and/or hospitalization.
    In addition to serious POME reactions, episodes of anaphylaxis, including life-threatening reactions, have also been reported to occur following the injection of intramuscular testosterone undecanoate in post-approval use outside of the United States.
    Both serious POME reactions and anaphylaxis have been reported to occur after any injection of testosterone undecanoate during the course of therapy, including after the first dose.
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    An other studyCase Reports in MedicineVolume 2012 (2012), Article ID 384054, 3 pages
    http://dx.doi.org/10.1155/2012/384054
    Anaphylaxis Triggered by Benzyl Benzoate


    Abstract
    We report the first case of an anaphylactic reaction to Reandron 1000 (depot testosterone undecanoate with a castor oil and benzyl benzoate vehicle). While considered to have a favourable safety profile, serious complications such as oil embolism and anaphylaxis can occur. In our patient, skin testing identified benzyl benzoate to be the trigger, with no reaction to castor oil or testosterone undecanoate components. As benzyl benzoate exists in multiple pharmaceuticals, foods, and cosmetics, individual components of pharmaceuticals should be tested when investigating drug allergies. Doctors should be alert to the potential for serious reactions to any of the components of Reandron 1000.1. Introduction
    In men requiring testosterone therapy, depot testosterone undecanoate (TU) is a useful option. Compared to conventional testosterone esters, depot TU maintains adequate testosterone levels with less frequent injections and has better pharmacokinetics. Specifically, depot TU comparatively achieves higher trough serum testosterone concentrations without the wide variation between peak and trough levels between doses [
    1]. TU was initially developed in the 1970s as an oral testosterone replacement preparation, with a transdermal patch available in the 1990s [1]. In China, a depot TU preparation with a Chinese teaseed oil vehicle was manufactured for intramuscular use and found to have a long half-life of 21 days, longer than conventionally used testosterone esters [2, 3]. Depot TU is currently marketed with a castor oil and benzyl benzoate vehicle [4], as the castor oil affords an even longer half-life (33.9 days) than the original Chinese depot preparation [2,5].The long-term overall safety profile of depot TU has been generally favourable [6, 7]. Anaphylaxis to depot TU has not been specifically reported although hypersensitivity is listed as an uncommon adverse effect in the manufacturerís product information [4]. Hypersensitivity reactions have not been described in cohorts who have used this preparation from 4 to 8 years.Here, we report the first documented case of anaphylaxis to Reandron 1000, a depot preparation of TU. This case is notable for the fact that the responsible agent was not the main active ingredient.2. Case Presentation

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