its not so much the ghb im talking about... its things like dnp, the oral trens, etc... the shit that is rarely used.. the things that can harm others... ghb itself is not prevalently used, trust me... maybe more so than others but all of these things, completely unnecessary to the normal user... these types of things are great for everyone to understand but not to use... even advanced users can but i guess for me, i will always keep it to more so mainstream things that while possibly harmful, don't carry the high risk that others do... i have too much value on life in general for that... you can do so much (as you already know) without things like that...