First cycle

[copertones]

Hey Dylan


I have been training for about 6 years now and dieting pretty strict for about 2 years and I have been researching for the last year or so and looking to start my first ever cycle. I was thinking of doing a cycle of Tbol as I am not looking to blow up in size I am already 200lbs fairly fit for 33 years old. After all the research it seems Tbol would give me a fairly good boost with mild side effects is the reasoning as to why I am leaning towards Tbol. My question is what would be your opinion for a first cycle and what is a good PCT to go with. I would also like to run TEST with it however being my first cycle was not sure if I should stack a bunch of compounds right off the bat. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Also keep up the good work on your channel I have enjoyed all the information I have been able to get from your videos.

 

[Flanex]

Hi copertones,Check out this thread before you ask for cycle advice.Thanks brother

https://www.isarms.com/forums/stero...w-here-read-been-here-ready-anyway-10368.html

 

[DylanGemelli]

Hey Dylan


I have been training for about 6 years now and dieting pretty strict for about 2 years and I have been researching for the last year or so and looking to start my first ever cycle. I was thinking of doing a cycle of Tbol as I am not looking to blow up in size I am already 200lbs fairly fit for 33 years old. After all the research it seems Tbol would give me a fairly good boost with mild side effects is the reasoning as to why I am leaning towards Tbol. My question is what would be your opinion for a first cycle and what is a good PCT to go with. I would also like to run TEST with it however being my first cycle was not sure if I should stack a bunch of compounds right off the bat. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Also keep up the good work on your channel I have enjoyed all the information I have been able to get from your videos.

you would never run an oral only cycle bro and on a first cycle, it would be test only... i need your full stats... age/height/weight/body fat? what is your precise goal?

 

[9th Wonder]

I would hold off on the Tbol and run test only. Can you give us some more stats?

 

[copertones]

you would never run an oral only cycle bro and on a first cycle, it would be test only... i need your full stats... age/height/weight/body fat? what is your precise goal?[/QUOT

I am 5'9", 33 years old, 200lbs, approx. 14 - 16% bf. My goal is to gain about 15 - 20lbs of lean mass.

for a cycle

1mil test E every 4 days - 12weeks
Tbol 60 per day 8 weeks
Aromasin 12.5 eod

pct
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD

 

[DylanGemelli]

i guess you didnt hear me about only using on compound on a first cycle??? 15-20 lbs. is not realistic either bro... we have to get you in a realistic scenario before you do this and also understanding what you are doing.. you should get your body fat down a bit more as well before you start if you really care about doing this right as well as your health

 

[copertones]

where do you think the BF% should be? my goal is just where I want to end up not expecting it to be from 1 cycle.

 

[DylanGemelli]

where do you think the BF% should be? my goal is just where I want to end up not expecting it to be from 1 cycle.

i would be in the 12-13% range otherwise what exactly is the point? you are not in the right condition and will never truly get what you should out of it... you dont have a ton to lose but if you want to do it right, that would be the best approach... you can do whatever you like but i try to help everyone get the most out of what they are doing... you could easily start with a sarms stack that will help you get your weight into the right position to run a cycle... if you are not familiar with sarms, start with my articles here... https://www.isarms.com/selective-androgen-receptor-modulators

let me know and im happy to help you set up a stack...

 

[RickRock]

you would never run an oral only cycle bro and on a first cycle, it would be test only... i need your full stats... age/height/weight/body fat? what is your precise goal?[/QUOT

I am 5'9", 33 years old, 200lbs, approx. 14 - 16% bf. My goal is to gain about 15 - 20lbs of lean mass.

for a cycle

1mil test E every 4 days - 12weeks
Tbol 60 per day 8 weeks
Aromasin 12.5 eod

pct
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD

I'd like to see you drop bodyfat just a bit before you start. Just stick to test only the first time. Pct is close but needs a little work. Your full pct should look like this

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/platinum-pct-stack

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK-2866 25mg ED
GW 20mg ED

 

[DylanGemelli]

when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…




here is the link to purchase the entire pct stack followed by the layout...


https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=133&search=platinum


clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day