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40 year old steroid cycle help

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lorgeter

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Hi Dylan what's up?
First of all I wanna thank you for what you have been doing for the bodybuilding community

I'm 40 y.o. and had done some cycles to keep myself in shape
I'm 6.0 tall 190lbs and have been doing sport since I was 18y.o.
I'm used to ketogenic dieting or carb cycling system
I'm at 9% bodyfat and my goal is to build up some lean solid stable muscular mass (I don't want massive dirty gains) with less side effects as I can possibly get (I suffered years ago of gynecomastia due to a heavy cycle with no anti estrogen then i can possibly be prone to that: moreover this summer I suffered lethargy and blood pressure with a cycle of Winstrol and Anavar and 15/20grams of carbs x day)

I've bought the following oral steroids for the next cycle but I don't know how to stack them correctly and how to plan a 9weeks cycle because three personal trainers I contacted gave me three different and opposite advices

Please can you help me composing my cycle and run all the stuff correctly with the info I've written?

If that's too much stuff please can u tell me two different protocols which I can alternate then I can switch every six months from protocol A to protocol B?

I bought the following stuff

ALL ORALS

Winstrol
Anavar
Methyltestosterone
Methenolone acetate

Proviron
Aromasin
Tamoxifene
Cabergoline


I thank you in advance and if there's something I can do for you from Italy then don't hesitate to ask
Wish to you and your Family a Merry Christmas
 
No Testosterone? or does the methyl cover that? be curious to hear and learn about that
 
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What's with all the orals?
You must really hate your liver.

Guaranteed you will continue to have nothing but problems if you run these oral cycles. If you can't at least inject testosterone then maybe you shouldn't be doing this. Adding an oral such as winstrol (fuck var) for 4-6 weeks during an INJECTABLE testosterone cycle is fine, but the compounds you have listed look like major problems in the future.

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This is a recipe for disaster, you'll only end up doing damage.

You had issues with 2 orals and now want to run this?

You know what it takes to be qualified to be a "personal trainer?" you can count to 12.
 
why are you running so many orals here bro? i dont get it but this is a wreck... you need to get this together asap... where are you getting this information? who is telling you to do things like this?? its beyond me who would advise this or are you coming up with this mess on your own?
 
EZ_E said:
This is a recipe for disaster, you'll only end up doing damage.

You had issues with 2 orals and now want to run this?

You know what it takes to be qualified to be a "personal trainer?" you can count to 12.
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i feel like im in the twilight zone... so you had issues with 2 so fuck it lets go for the gold and go to 4? LMFAO... wow, just wow
 
Please answer these questions so we can help give you the advice you need


(PM me for a price list for Biotech Labs and 10% discount)
 
Hi Dylan... thanx 2 all of u for the the help and replies
From what I got from your answers then I'd rather run every cycle with test

At this point I need your help to understand properly

1) Shall test be only injectable form? Can that injectable test be replaced by any oral test or sarm?

2) Could the following stack be ok for total 11 weeks cycle?
SUSTANON250 (250 x week) + PRIMO (oral) + WINSTROL (oral) for 5 weeks
SUSTANON250 (250 x week) + PRIMO (oral) + ANAVAR (oral) for 6 weeks

AROMASIN and DOSTINEX and MILK THISTLE during cycle

TAMOXIFEN and CLOMID and CHOLIN+INOSITOL for pct

3) Can u suggest me an alternative stack/stacks with sarms considering the fact that I moved 2 europe and i dont know where to get sarms online here?
(Can u suggest me some trusted isarms providers in the uk or any other sarms brands I can trust/find in Europe?)

Thanx a lot guys
 
lorgeter said:
Hi Dylan... thanx 2 all of u for the the help and replies
From what I got from your answers then I'd rather run every cycle with test

At this point I need your help to understand properly

1) Shall test be only injectable form? Can that injectable test be replaced by any oral test or sarm?

2) Could the following stack be ok for total 11 weeks cycle?
SUSTANON250 (250 x week) + PRIMO (oral) + WINSTROL (oral) for 5 weeks
SUSTANON250 (250 x week) + PRIMO (oral) + ANAVAR (oral) for 6 weeks

AROMASIN and DOSTINEX and MILK THISTLE during cycle

TAMOXIFEN and CLOMID and CHOLIN+INOSITOL for pct

3) Can u suggest me an alternative stack/stacks with sarms considering the fact that I moved 2 europe and i dont know where to get sarms online here?
(Can u suggest me some trusted isarms providers in the uk or any other sarms brands I can trust/find in Europe?)

Thanx a lot guys
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For your first cycle, I'd recommend running a test cycle with some sarms thrown in. Also you want to run test a full 12 weeks, and not 5 or 6. That won't do a thing for you.

Testosterone you need to run in injectible form. There is no suitable replacement for it, unless you just want to do an all sarms cycle

www.sarmsx.com can ship to you in Europe no problem at all, and that is the source we recommend to you

Here is a good cycle for you.

1-12 Test C 350mg per week
1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/ultra-recomp-stack-12-weeks-2
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 RAD-140 20mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.

PCT

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/platinum-pct-stack

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK-2866 25mg ED
GW 20mg ED



(PM me for a price list for Biotech Labs and 10% discount)
 
lorgeter said:
Hi Dylan... thanx 2 all of u for the the help and replies
From what I got from your answers then I'd rather run every cycle with test

At this point I need your help to understand properly

1) Shall test be only injectable form? Can that injectable test be replaced by any oral test or sarm?

2) Could the following stack be ok for total 11 weeks cycle?
SUSTANON250 (250 x week) + PRIMO (oral) + WINSTROL (oral) for 5 weeks
SUSTANON250 (250 x week) + PRIMO (oral) + ANAVAR (oral) for 6 weeks

AROMASIN and DOSTINEX and MILK THISTLE during cycle

TAMOXIFEN and CLOMID and CHOLIN+INOSITOL for pct

3) Can u suggest me an alternative stack/stacks with sarms considering the fact that I moved 2 europe and i dont know where to get sarms online here?
(Can u suggest me some trusted isarms providers in the uk or any other sarms brands I can trust/find in Europe?)

Thanx a lot guys
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of course i can help you bro... unfortunately sarms cannot replace test... trust me, you need to just run injectable test here... i have a perfect cycle for you.. all of your sarms and pct etc. can be shipped to you from sarmsx with no issues whatsoever.. im going to make it extremely easy for you bro... here are the links to purchase everything you need followed by the layout...

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=134&search=power

https://www.sarmsx.com/30-Off/30-off-gw-501516

https://www.sarmsx.com/liquiaro-15mgs-ml-30mls

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=133&search=platinum

1-12 test cyp 350-500 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-12 rad140 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout and non workout days, all at once in the a.m.
11-14 hcg 1000 ius week

pct 15-18


clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day
 
Hi Dylan

I already bought the gear mentioned in my posts (and below mentioned) then I ain't got much money left on my budget to afford the sarms stacks..

At this point shall I run something like this?

SUSTANON250 (250mg x 12weeks)

PRIMO (oral) + WINSTROL (oral) Weeks 1-5

PRIMO (oral) + ANAVAR (oral) Weeks 6-12

+ 2 SARMS (Which ones you suggest?)

AROMASIN and DOSTINEX and MILK THISTLE all the cycle (12 weeks)


NOLVA and CLOMID and CHOLIN+INOSITOL for pct (PCT weeks 13-18)


PS Can u suggest 2 sarms I can buy to add to this cycle(I already bought the gear then I cannot throw away primo winstrol and Anavar -orals-)

Thanx guys
 
lorgeter said:
Hi Dylan

I already bought the gear mentioned in my posts (and below mentioned) then I ain't got much money left on my budget to afford the sarms stacks..

At this point shall I run something like this?

SUSTANON250 (250mg x 12weeks)

PRIMO (oral) + WINSTROL (oral) Weeks 1-5

PRIMO (oral) + ANAVAR (oral) Weeks 6-12

+ 2 SARMS (Which ones you suggest?)

AROMASIN and DOSTINEX and MILK THISTLE all the cycle (12 weeks)


NOLVA and CLOMID and CHOLIN+INOSITOL for pct (PCT weeks 13-18)


PS Can u suggest 2 sarms I can buy to add to this cycle(I already bought the gear then I cannot throw away primo winstrol and Anavar -orals-)

Thanx guys
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Bro, what part of Rick or Dylan's post are you not getting? You are insulting both of them by asking the same question and expecting a different answer.

No 1 is asking you to "throw away" anything. That's absurd. Follow the plan they set out for you.
 
Bro... "Insulting?"
Sorry I don't get the meaning of what you say bro...
I just wrote that I'm out of budget and I cannot afford extra expenses to buy all those sarms.
Their reply was about setting up a new cycle based on sarms then I kindly asked them how could I use the stuff I already got in a safe and proper way
I just kindly asked their help in order to be able to use safely what I already had bought spending a lot of money (stuff I listed in the previous post) and to add to that 2 sarms (I got a little money left to spend for a couple of sarms)
That's it... However I thank u for your help

PS
Do you agree on this cycle composition? Can u suggest 2 sarms to add? Thank u

SUSTANON250 (250mg 1vial each week x 12weeks)

PRIMO (oral) + WINSTROL (oral) Weeks 1-5 (Primo from 50mg min to 100mg peak -win from 20mg min to 50mg max peak)

PRIMO (oral) + ANAVAR (oral) Weeks 6-12 (Primo from 100mg peak to 50mg -anavar from 20mg min to 70mg peak)

+ 2 SARMS (Which ones you suggest?)

AROMASIN and DOSTINEX and MILK THISTLE all the cycle (12 weeks)


NOLVA and CLOMID and CHOLIN+INOSITOL for pct (PCT weeks 13-18)
 
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Just to make it clear last time... As I wrote in the first post what happened to me (past issue with gear) happened because eighteen years ago I did run my fourth cycle very long and heavy with dbol etc getting no anti-estrogen and non proper pct
What happened doesn't mean that now (after such a long time) I'm gonna have the same problems which I obviously got for a wrong use. Moreover the stuff mentioned is mild and I wish to use that the proper way: that's why I was asking this community an advice and I wished to know about that cycle mentioned (I already bought the gear and I won't trash that because it cost money) and made sure of the protocols. Moreover I'm gonna have my bloodwork done at half of the cycle and at the end of the cycle
All of that said I thank everyone for the precious help had (by somebody) or for the useless comments received (by anybody else)
Regards
 
No one is saying to throw out the rest of the stuff you have, based on the info about yourself you provided they are recommending you start off with a "test only cycle", and if you can afford to add the sarms that are way less harsh than what you have, go for it. If not stick to the test only and get through this cycle, maybe the next one add the other stuff in, it shouldn't go bad by then if you take care of it.
 
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