1st time go with SARM

[Takedownartist]

Intro and background. First, been looking at the forum and threads for a long time. Lots of good insight, thanks for sharing. Background. Been training for more than 17 years, participated and trained collegiate athletes, trained and competed professional MMA fighters and special operations in military. I have used plenty of supps over the years. I'm am at a point where I am looking to get bigger but stay lean and fit as a Dad and competitor. Yes I don't mind getting punched in the face or shot at but I hate needles, hate them. So, I was looking at Osta from Sarmsx and anavar from pharmacom. Question is, if injectables are off the table, staying lean is important while getting bigger but not blowing up....Are these a good idea to go together? Duration of cycle and dosage. I'm on the conservative side of this. BTW, used Super DMZ in the last and stopped at around day 27 due to sore nipples, so I know I'm sensitive on that end. This is also why these compounds were interesting to me. Thoughts? Any help and insight from the more experienced on this end would be appreciated.

Stats:
5'8" 170
8-9%bf
Age 32
DL:505 BP:340 SQ:385
2 mile run 12:43
Previously used PHs
Andro(15 years ago, yes when under 18 haha was stupid)
Superdrol
Phera-plex
Super DMZ 3.0
low carb high fat diet, high protein diet
Have been almost 190 with abs, but I don't enjoy it. Just want to be able to get stronger, leaner, and add about 5-8 pounds.

 

[Saiyan]

Sarms could be a great choice. Unfortunately it's not a good idea to take oral aas like anavar without inj test. Can it be done? Yes. But not recommended.
What are you exact goals? Size? Strength? Hardness?


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[RickRock]

Intro and background. First, been looking at the forum and threads for a long time. Lots of good insight, thanks for sharing. Background. Been training for more than 17 years, participated and trained collegiate athletes, trained and competed professional MMA fighters and special operations in military. I have used plenty of supps over the years. I'm am at a point where I am looking to get bigger but stay lean and fit as a Dad and competitor. Yes I don't mind getting punched in the face or shot at but I hate needles, hate them. So, I was looking at Osta from Sarmsx and anavar from pharmacom. Question is, if injectables are off the table, staying lean is important while getting bigger but not blowing up....Are these a good idea to go together? Duration of cycle and dosage. I'm on the conservative side of this. BTW, used Super DMZ in the last and stopped at around day 27 due to sore nipples, so I know I'm sensitive on that end. This is also why these compounds were interesting to me. Thoughts? Any help and insight from the more experienced on this end would be appreciated.

Stats:
5'8" 170
8-9%bf
Age 32
DL:505 BP:340 SQ:385
2 mile run 12:43
Previously used PHs
Andro(15 years ago, yes when under 18 haha was stupid)
Superdrol
Phera-plex
Super DMZ 3.0
low carb high fat diet, high protein diet
Have been almost 190 with abs, but I don't enjoy it. Just want to be able to get stronger, leaner, and add about 5-8 pounds.

Hey bro, I wouldn't advise using any oral steroid without testosterone. It's just not a good idea at all for many reasons. Also anavar is an extremely poor choice. It's weak as hell and basically good for women.

My recommendation to you would be to run a sarms stack and I have the perfect one to meet your goals. The ultra Recomp stack from www.sarmsx.com is exactly what you want to gain lean mass, strength, and drop bodyfat. It also will enhance your endurance which is great for your sport.

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/ultra-recomp-stack-12-weeks-2

1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 RAD-140 20mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.

PCT

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/sarms-mini-pct-stack-1

Clomid 50/25/25/25
GW 20mg per day

(PM me for a price list for Biotech Labs and 10% discount)

 

[Takedownartist]

I've always heard that you should start with a base of test. Since its kind of the "rule" but I've never seen anyone say why. What's the reasoning for not doing JUST anavar? Just want to understand, not doubting since that's what I've read pretty much every time. As far as goals. I am not looking to get huge, I've been 20lbs heavier before with abs, just isn't fun and it's a TON of food for me. I'd like to gain 5-8 pounds while staying at least as lean as I am, hopefully even tighter. I'm at about 8-9% BR now. And strength would hopefully come with it. So just some dry hard gains. I read as Ostarine being best for this or anavar, at least that's what I could conclude, but I wanted to consult those who know more than I do about this sort of thing.

 

[rockmfhudd]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n7AFV4HBSg

watch this

fist time with sarms I would do the triple stack which is gw,s4, and mk2866 maybe add lgd in for more lean gains and or sr9009

 

[Takedownartist]

That video was very helpful, thanks for connecting me there. Yeah, again, always heard it, just never saw why. So it looks like going the SARM route. I see a couple different recommendations on stacks. I've only got a $200-$300 to go in with right now. I want to do a smaller one now, then a bigger one in spring. I got a big summer beach trip that I want to nail it with. So if I can add now and add more the , that's the idea. What dosage and timeline would be best?

 

[rockmfhudd]

That video was very helpful, thanks for connecting me there. Yeah, again, always heard it, just never saw why. So it looks like going the SARM route. I see a couple different recommendations on stacks. I've only got a $200-$300 to go in with right now. I want to do a smaller one now, then a bigger one in spring. I got a big summer beach trip that I want to nail it with. So if I can add now and add more the , that's the idea. What dosage and timeline would be best?

well obviously 12 weeks is optimal and the only way I have ever and would ever consider it the shortest setup is 8 weeks but that last 4 weeks to be honest is when most of these really start to shine and you will leave gains on the table if you do anything shorter than 12 weeks. why don't you just keep researching and reading about all the sarms, and save some money you will still have time to make the beach trip really amazing if you wait and do it the right way. that means the stack, pct and all protection etc etc.

what RR setup for you above is good but like I said I would wait til you have the money and a good plan for pct etc before starting. just my 2 cents and are you on TRT by chance?



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[Takedownartist]

So if I were to do a 12 week of MK-2866 only, then pct stack of liquidnolva and cardarine that would not be a good idea? I guess the whole money thing is, I HAVE it now, and I'll have it then, but I can't justify that kind of money on it these days with other priorities of 3 kids and a wife, plus a gun habit haha. I know there is a lot MORE I could do, I guess with just MK2866, at 12 weeks would I see a 5-8 lb lean gain? Would it be safe and smart at a cost that I can justify? Another thank you to all who have been helping me figure this thing out.

 

[dylangemelli]

So if I were to do a 12 week of MK-2866 only, then pct stack of liquidnolva and cardarine that would not be a good idea? I guess the whole money thing is, I HAVE it now, and I'll have it then, but I can't justify that kind of money on it these days with other priorities of 3 kids and a wife, plus a gun habit haha. I know there is a lot MORE I could do, I guess with just MK2866, at 12 weeks would I see a 5-8 lb lean gain? Would it be safe and smart at a cost that I can justify? Another thank you to all who have been helping me figure this thing out.

hey brother... i hope the video helped you... it should have covered with you exactly why oral only is unacceptable but if you have any more questions on it please let me know...

what i would do is this... go with a stack of ldg and s4.. it will be very affordable for you and you will get everything you want and more from it... its the best sarms duo you can run... here is the layout for it...

you can get everything at www.sarmsx.com



1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
9-12 d aspartic acid


Mini pct 13-16




clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[Takedownartist]

Thanks man. Quick question. Due to my lifestyle of lifting, fighting, wrestling, and general wear and tear Military demands, will lgd and s4 help with the joint pain I experience like osta sounds like it does? And yeah, I've been watching your videos for a while. Glad someone has balls to speak up man. Thanks. Oh and if in my place of work or work demands don't let me hit s4 in 6 hours, can it be broken up more like 12 hours. Prolly couldn't bring this in work place. Any thoughts/ insight appreciated. You guys are awesome.

 

[dylangemelli]

Thanks man. Quick question. Due to my lifestyle of lifting, fighting, wrestling, and general wear and tear Military demands, will lgd and s4 help with the joint pain I experience like osta sounds like it does? And yeah, I've been watching your videos for a while. Glad someone has balls to speak up man. Thanks. Oh and if in my place of work or work demands don't let me hit s4 in 6 hours, can it be broken up more like 12 hours. Prolly couldn't bring this in work place. Any thoughts/ insight appreciated. You guys are awesome.

with this circumstance, i would go with lgd and mk2866 then.. you need to keep the s4 dosing split closer to 4-6 hours and with the healing you need, nothing tops mk2866... so go this route instead...



1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 mk-2866 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
9-12 d aspartic acid


Mini pct 13-16




clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[Takedownartist]

Thanks for your insight and the time you take to help bros like me. You're the man. Last question so I can order. I know I can buy an oral syringe and that will make dosing easy, but how many bottles of each will I need to order of each to make this happen per your recommendation? Ready to order and see some gains! Thanks again.

 

[dylangemelli]

Thanks for your insight and the time you take to help bros like me. You're the man. Last question so I can order. I know I can buy an oral syringe and that will make dosing easy, but how many bottles of each will I need to order of each to make this happen per your recommendation? Ready to order and see some gains! Thanks again.

you dont need to waste any money on an oral syringe, each bottle comes with one... they are marked for you to have complete accuracy..

you need 2 mk2866 and 3 lgd along with the mini pct... here are the links for everything you need...

https://www.sarmsx.com/30-Off/30-lgd-4033

https://www.sarmsx.com/30-Off/30-mk-2866

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=138&search=mini

 

[Takedownartist]

Thanks for the help. Now I get to put it to the test.

 

[rockmfhudd]

keep us updated on dem gainzzz bro

 

[dylangemelli]

Thanks for the help. Now I get to put it to the test.

anytime bro.. make sure to keep us updated on your results...