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There could be many reasons for lack of gains. It could be your diet,your training, or your gear. I would look into some other things before just throwing other compounds in there. That's not a smart practice
What is your stats and experience?
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rockmfhudd
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well seeing that EQ doesn't shine til way later I would hold out a little while longer.
Running test and EQ for 7 weeks and then adding in dbol isn't gonna get you the results you're looking for. Dbol is gonna outdo the EQ's effects by putting on alot of water weight. As EQ is a great hardener and puts on no water. Dbol is usually meant for the beginning of a cycle to kickstart size. Maybe look into your source and see if it's underdosed or something like that. EQ can be ran 18 weeks at higher doses of your bf% is low enough.
Jake
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You are using sustanon 250, but how many mgs per week? How much eq are you using? I would avoid the dbol, and hopefully you are 25 years old or older
Right? Very vague info.
anything but the "guys at the gym" THE GUYS AT THE GYM DONT KNOW THEIR ASS FROM A HOLE IN THE GROUND... THE "GUYS AT THE FUCKING GYM" ARE GOING TO GET YOU HURT... THE "GUYS AT THE GYM" ARE DUMBER THAN ELEMENTARY STUDENTS... Im sure you see my point...
NO, you dont add dbol this late in a cycle... the LAST thing you want to do is elevate estrogen towards the tail end of a cycle... not to mention, EQ needs to be ran a MINIMUM of 16 weeks... it doesn't even begin to kick until around week 8 or 9... i bet the "guys at the gym" didn't fill you in on any of that... or the fact your running it too low? did they tell you that? what are you running for a pct? what ancillaries are you using? are you giving blood like you should be with eq use?
Thank you Doug for the reply, as for the ancillaries no I am not, and I hate to say it but I don't know what it is not do I feel dumb.
As for the EQ I only got enough for 12 weeks should I get more to run 16 weeks? And yes I do have a pct. I did go get blood wk done and everything looks good.
I haven't given blood yet.
As for the EQ I only got enough for 12 weeks should I get more to run 16 weeks? And yes I do have a pct. I did go get blood wk done and everything looks good.
I haven't given blood yet.
Cwrose1
Active member
Yes you need more eq....also if I read correctly your taking 500mg of eq? I think most will say eq shines at 800.
Jake
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Bro,you are kind of in a mess here. I wish you would have posted here b4 you started anything. When it comes to your health, gains,steroids you need people that really really do understand this. Most people do not, and most guys at the gym spout off yet know nothing.
Had you asked before hand we would have gotten your age, number of cycles you have done,what aas did you use in these cycles, what were the outcomes,what were your goals etc. There is a lot involved here.
It seems to me that if your sus250 is for real then your 500mgs weekly should give you some gains...however you may not feel strength surges or gains for 6-10 weeks.
As an eq enthusiast myself ,I can tell you that you need about 800mgs for 16 weeks to see strength gains and some size. EQ is not a bulker. If you wanted to get bulk then you should have used something other than eq,...maybe deca,...after all sus and deca are classics. Then you could have started the whole cycle off with dbol. However you cannot end with dbol because at the end is when everything is kicking...including sides. This is a point where test is maxed,estrogen is maxed,prostaglandins are through the roof, and then you want to add a big bad ass aas like dbol? Is one of your goals to fuck yourself up? You need on cycle therapy now and post cyle therapy for after your cycle or at least have it on hand. Would you recognize sides if you got them? I didn't think so. Would your bros at the gym help you through your sides?
At this point you should just drop the eq and stick with the 500 sus. Stop at 12 weeks.
Tell us what you plan to do, and we can then give you a complete list of ancillaries. Ancillaries are drugs that help you avoid side effects. They are drugs for OCT (On Cycle Therapy) and PCT (Post Cycle Therapy). You need the oct to avoid bad side effects such as nice boobs , and the pct to get your own test back asap, since while you are on a cycle, your own test is suppressed.
Despite what you may think the guys who are successful have well thought out cycles and well thought out oct and pct. Tell your gym buds that Jake said they don't know shit from shineola.
You need to be running Aromasin on your cycle at 12.5mg EOD to control estrogen. This is extremely important while on aromatizing compounds. You can get high quality Liquid Aromasin from www.sarmsx.com
What exactly is your pct? A complete pct protocol should look like this
https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/platinum-pct-stack
Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK-2866 25mg ED
GW 20mg ED
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i think you meant to call me "dylan" not doug... LOLLL anyway....
bro, i dont want you to feel dumb at all but you need to understand, you can't run cycles without knowing what your doing and MOST IMPORTANTLY, you can't run cycles without having a full pct on hand... also you cannot run compounds when you dont even know how to use them... its basic and common knowledge that eq needs to be ran much longer than other anabolics... if you can't run it 16 weeks, there's no point... its not like its difficult to get more... we have plenty of sponsors here that can help you... so that would not be an issue... rick showed you exactly what you need for pct but i will reiterate because PCT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF ANY CYCLE... https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/platinum-pct-stack?sort=p.price&order=DESC
clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day
