Out of curiosity...did yalls kids have much time with the grandparents? That's who had the biggest influence on me growing up..I learned survival,work,and love from my grandparents...didn't get a lot from my parents
My son and my father had a shit relationship imo, my dad was dealing with dementia and early onset Alzheimer's at the time, my mom was giving him a hard time about old shit and my dad was hiding the fact his cancer was back after 14 years. He was under a lot of stress and doing his part to protect my mom and everyone's feelings I guess. He was volatile to say the least. My son and him were great when he was little, but later on my son didn't really understand why his gramps was acting like a dick. None of us did till it was too late sadly. I wish they had a better relationship. My wife's father doesn't speak to anyone unless he thinks he's better than them, or to ask them for something when he needs it. I think he's said less than 10 words to my son in the past 18 years. Her mother has Alzheimer's now so, no my kids have never had much of a relationship with their grandparents.