T rows, versus barbell rows

[jp1957]

I finally got setup last night for t bar rows. (use barbell grounded with 35p bumper plate). Decided to not go crazy, and just throw a couple of 45's on it.

Ripped out just 8 reps, and fuck my lower back hurt(down in the ligaments). Enough I had to breakout my ketaprofen mix.(awesome compounded stuff)

Decided to skip lifting this morning and just did cardio.

My question, is barbell rows dont seem to bother me at all, but t bar sure did.

Any thoughts, form is pretty much the same for each. The only difference I see is the connection point to the bar and angle of pull is out in front slightly more than a barbell row.

 

[jp1957]

I think I see my error here, I have a slider that goes on the bar cable attached to a t to pull. Which puts the pull on the bar too far out.

Am I supposed to put the cable slider on first, then the weights? From some videos, kinda appears so?

 

[rockmfhudd]

more than likely it was your form if you do it again, lighten the weight and get the form and movement down before increasing for sure it not only pulls on back but glutes and hammies as well

 

[44YOGearHead]

Can't visualize what you're saying without an image (excuse my stupidity bro), but the problem seems related to the angle at which you are lifting. Something has placed your back and the point of pressure in a bad spot probably at your C7, or in the area between the L1 thru L5 Leatherneck. I'm gonna speculate that you are correct in what you suspect as the issue with the cable/slider. Headed to the gym, but can you post a pic of what you're talking about? - 44

 

[Cyclops]

for me, t-row all the way

 

[Montgomery]

Is the T bar is connected to a low cable pulley and you pull up under your chin, is that what you are talking about

 

[RickRock]

If a movement is aggravating your back, avoid it or try it with more reps and a lower weight. Another option is going with a seated row. Hammer strength rows, seated cable rows, etc are all great alternatives that won't be as,bad on your back

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[jp1957]

I have this slider that goes over the bar. Attached to that is a chain and t bar (for now).

So I put 90pds on teh end, a lockjaw, then the slider.

The video's I've look at, I have it backwards. The slider goes in teh bar first, then the weights and lockjaw.

So I had my connection to the bar way way too high, which leveraged my back too much.

 

[DylanGemelli]

I have this slider that goes over the bar. Attached to that is a chain and t bar (for now).

So I put 90pds on teh end, a lockjaw, then the slider.

The video's I've look at, I have it backwards. The slider goes in teh bar first, then the weights and lockjaw.

So I had my connection to the bar way way too high, which leveraged my back too much.

i understand what your saying and your right... once you fix this it will alleviate the pain... its best to alternate these each week... although it has the same primary muscle intended, it is a different movement, which hits it at different angles and keeps your body from acclimating to the movement...

 

[jp1957]

Yea, I figure during the week, doing strongman, since I cant deadlift, I'll alternate T row with a T, and t row with that V looking whirlygig.

I've got some other attachment coming thats interesting...

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[BraedenB]

I find t bar rows really aggravate my back to, if the weight is right though it works my entire core. Personally I like barbell better though, you can do way more with a barbell

 

[jp1957]

Setting the bar correctly, fixed my problem, although need to get something under my weights to make it easier to get on and off.

 

[jp1957]

I got this new fangled t bar, that attaches solid (instead of chain) to the barbell. But its rather hard on my back, I'm guessing because the chain allows me some flexiblity in the movement, and solid connect to the bar doesnt. It will be in a fixed arc with a solid connect.

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