sustanon cycle , (PCT advice)

[barsaos]

Hey Dylan,
Massive fan of your articles and Videos!

I just have a couple of quick questions just trying to plan out my first cycle!

At this stage i will be doing a 8week cycle of Sust 500/mg ew
I want to try keep it as simple and plain as possible first time around.
Regarding my PCT I can get my hands on novadex/clomid and aromosin.
Ive read that i should be using the aromasin during my cycle and novadex/clomid in Post Cycle.
My question is when should i start/stop using these products (clomid,nolvadex,aromasin) and what amounts!

 

[MaxxPursuit]

For a first cycle, if you really want to keep things simple, I'd just stick with a long ester like cyp or enan. That way, you only have to pin twice a week instead of eod like you would with sust. 8 weeks is also short in my opinion. Anyway... lets start with your stats first bud. Whats your age, height, weight, bf%? Years training? Goals?

 

[dylangemelli]

Hey Dylan,
Massive fan of your articles and Videos!

I just have a couple of quick questions just trying to plan out my first cycle!

At this stage i will be doing a 8week cycle of Sust 500/mg ew
I want to try keep it as simple and plain as possible first time around.
Regarding my PCT I can get my hands on novadex/clomid and aromosin.
Ive read that i should be using the aromasin during my cycle and novadex/clomid in Post Cycle.
My question is when should i start/stop using these products (clomid,nolvadex,aromasin) and what amounts!

okay bro, we need to take many steps back... sustanon ran for 8 weeks is POINTLESS... DO NOT run it if you plan on doing that.. 60% of sustanon is not just long esters but EXTREMELY LONG esters... 8 weeks is a waste of time and money... your pct is incomplete... before we go any further, please post your stats and goals... age/height/weight/body fat????? goals???? workout history???

 

[barsaos]

Okay I'm 25yrs old been training for 5years
76kgs , 178cm very lean 8-10% bf

My end goal is for my second cycle is to run test prop and masteron prop for a 10week cycle as My goal is for a very lean athletic look. But as It's my first cycle I don't want to be pinning every second day thought I'd choose a longer ester cycle so I would only have to pin every 3days or so. And was only going to keep it to 8weeks because I didn't want to push my body to much the first time around. Would the 8week sust cycle be more worth it if I included a 4week anavar or winstrol kick starter? Or what do you recommend use a different type of test all together?!

 

[RickRock]

Okay I'm 25yrs old been training for 5years
76kgs , 178cm very lean 8-10% bf

My end goal is for my second cycle is to run test prop and masteron prop for a 10week cycle as My goal is for a very lean athletic look. But as It's my first cycle I don't want to be pinning every second day thought I'd choose a longer ester cycle so I would only have to pin every 3days or so. And was only going to keep it to 8weeks because I didn't want to push my body to much the first time around. Would the 8week sust cycle be more worth it if I included a 4week anavar or winstrol kick starter? Or what do you recommend use a different type of test all together?!

8mweeks just makes no sesame for a long Ester. You really need to go with 12 to make it worthwhile.

First cycle you don't want to be adding orals in either or other steroids to complicate it. I would suggest adding in sarms to enhance it.

Here is a good protocol for you. Get your SARMS and pct from www.sarmsx.com

1-12 Sustanon 350mg per week
1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 RAD-140 20mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.

PCT

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/platinum-pct-stack

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK-2866 25mg ED
GW 20mg ED



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[EZ_E]

I tried to not do this but... You literally said your wanted to keep it to eight weeks because you don't want to push your body to much.

How would ADDING oral steroids like Winny or var make it more worth it?

I'm not understanding your real concern here, safety or length of cycle. Which are two completely different things.


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I think he means that he wants to keep the cycle short because he thinks there's less chance of any negative sides.

OP; if you don't want to push your body too much then AAS is not for you. The whole point of AAS is to push your body. It's ok to put this off to a "better" time.

 

[dylangemelli]

bro, im lost.. what do you not understand that sustanon needs to be ran 12 weeks... adding an oral is not going to change that... if you dont want to run a 12 week cycle then dont run sustanon or any other long estered test... i dont understand what YOU dont understand from my previous post... your just making repeat exactly what i already said... i have no clue how adding an oral is going to change the fact that sustanon is a long ester? im lost

 

[SpikedEggnog]

Okay I'm 25yrs old been training for 5years
76kgs , 178cm very lean 8-10% bf

My end goal is for my second cycle is to run test prop and masteron prop for a 10week cycle as My goal is for a very lean athletic look. But as It's my first cycle I don't want to be pinning every second day thought I'd choose a longer ester cycle so I would only have to pin every 3days or so. And was only going to keep it to 8weeks because I didn't want to push my body to much the first time around. Would the 8week sust cycle be more worth it if I included a 4week anavar or winstrol kick starter? Or what do you recommend use a different type of test all together?!

why are you talking about a second cycle when you haven't even ran your first yet? worry about what youre doing now first. I would just use basic TEST cypionate, 12 weeks. that's all you need. and NO adding an oral does not affect the length of the test cycle, you need to run the test 12 weeks. do NOT add orals.

 

[dylangemelli]

why are you talking about a second cycle when you haven't even ran your first yet? worry about what youre doing now first. I would just use basic TEST cypionate, 12 weeks. that's all you need. and NO adding an oral does not affect the length of the test cycle, you need to run the test 12 weeks. do NOT add orals.

exactly, thats the worst thing you can do and shows a clear lack of focus and attention on the task at hand... another thing that should never be done