Sooooo I'm confused.LOL

[cbbram00]

I love Deca also and I get a little bummed when I have to stop but I know after the break I'll be excited to run it again. It's a magical compound with very little sides if you approach it wisely with the respect it deserves.

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[TotalPackage]

Ahh..so you want to hear from the king of deca..Jr..lol. Sr being DrB. I think I can do him justice when it comes to deca.
First rule-deca must be less than or equal to the dose of test. Very common is a 200/200 deca/test. Deca at the 150-200mg level will give modest to good gains with almost no sides. If you want to use 400mg deca then test should be a min of 400 and 500 better.With this you can expect good gains and possible sides. So far your gains are hard and dry. Go to 600 deca and then you may get some nip soreness or you may get deca dick which usually does not happen if your test is 600 also.
Deca is a nandrolone and it is hooked to a long chain..decoanate. This means slow in and slow out. It may be week 6 before you feel it but when you do it surges bigtime.
It feels like magic, plus it makes you feel really good...well being.
At 600mg you begin prolactin problems so it is best to use caber while using deca at this level.At 600mg it is a mighty mass builder and some water.
Keep in mind that trenbolone is also a nandrolone so, you must take into account if you use deca and tren together. Total nandrolones of 600 only gives me sensitive nips, meaning the hot water from the shower kind of tingles.I take caber when I use 600-800,of which I do not do anymore.

So for your first time with deca then try 150-200mgs. If you know you are prone to gyno then use caber at any level of deca. With 200mgs at 12-14 weeks you can expect about 7lbs of lean muscle.

I am of the opinion that if you can't make gains on 200/200 or 400/400 then something else is the problem whether it be diet or routine.
We all know that test is the king, and I would place deca second, simply because it has low sides at lower levels of 400 or less, plus gives good gains plus the well being.

Very nice Jake! I always, pretty much know what you're going to reply when it comes to Deca, but I always have to take the time to read the whole post just in case you added another nugget to it! I'm currently on the 200/ 200 and absolutely love it! I'm going to bump it up to 300 and 300 this summer just for experimental and see what it does for me. Workouts are great, sense of well-being is fantastic! Not a better feeling in the world!

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[Jake]

Very nice Jake! I always, pretty much know what you're going to reply when it comes to Deca, but I always have to take the time to read the whole post just in case you added another nugget to it! I'm currently on the 200/ 200 and absolutely love it! I'm going to bump it up to 300 and 300 this summer just for experimental and see what it does for me. Workouts are great, sense of well-being is fantastic! Not a better feeling in the world!

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Good for you bro...always glad to hear fro others who enjoy this simple combo. I love the 300/300.

 

[RickRock]

I personally prefer test to deca at a 2:1 ratio, after my own experience with it, but not everybody likes test higher.

As said, at least run test equal to deca and control your estrogen and prolactin and you'll enjoy the heck out of it.

Like tren, a little deca goes a,long way and you don't need a lot. You can actually make incredible gains on just 200mg.

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[TotalPackage]

I personally prefer test to deca at a 2:1 ratio, after my own experience with it, but not everybody likes test higher.

As said, at least run test equal to deca and control your estrogen and prolactin and you'll enjoy the heck out of it.

Like tren, a little deca goes a,long way and you don't need a lot. You can actually make incredible gains on just 200mg.

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I hear you RR.....for me I have to try to keep Test at minimum though. I aromatize too much otherwise. I'm at 16 weeks right now on 200 of deca with 200 test, and absolutely no side effects at all from the DECA! Just benefits only! It's like a magic formula, magic potion!

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[SDKing]

I don't agree with the test must be ran higher than Deca, Google and you will find that nearly EVERY one will repeat this, but when I tried it myself I found something very different. Test E at 300 and Deca at 500 was probably my favorite cycle ever besides Tren. I've ran it all kinds of ways. Test 500 deca 500, 500/300, 500/150 and 300/500 respectively. Test and Deca at 300/500 gave the biggest, leanest gains with minimal water retention, crazy high libido (without caber), normal blood pressure, no bad sides, and PRs broken even cardio PRs.

You will find that everyone is different and only you can find what works best for you.

 

[cbbram00]

I've ran it at 150/300 as an experiment because I don't like high test and I felt great but it did kill my libido. Without Cialis I wasn't able to keep an erection. I take Cialis regularly anyways so far me it's not a big deal but for some it's unacceptable. Next time I will run them even.

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[Jake]

I don't agree with the test must be ran higher than Deca, Google and you will find that nearly EVERY one will repeat this, but when I tried it myself I found something very different. Test E at 300 and Deca at 500 was probably my favorite cycle ever besides Tren. I've ran it all kinds of ways. Test 500 deca 500, 500/300, 500/150 and 300/500 respectively. Test and Deca at 300/500 gave the biggest, leanest gains with minimal water retention, crazy high libido (without caber), normal blood pressure, no bad sides, and PRs broken even cardio PRs.

You will find that everyone is different and only you can find what works best for you.

It is different for you because you are past the 450mg zone.After 450mgs then 300 test is fine. The 300/500 is great for those looking for mass, and does indeed work..again because you are over the 450mg range. The equal to or greater than rule has been the standard since after only a few years of deca being on the market in the 60's. It is used medically at 200/200 and has been used this way even on burn victims. It is the safest way to do it for rookies. If I were to do 800mgs deca then surely I would only need 300-400mg test.
AND I do not get information from google, and I don't give a frogs fat ass what google says.If it is not in medical literature, or chemistry books then I do not read it. Also between me my dad and my brothers we have done well over 150 cycles of using deca. Tried and proven over and over.

I knew of a guy who my dad worked out with and became well known.He often did 500 test and 900 deca. Once you are up in those ranges things change and deca becomes a beast.It pours the mass on at those levels.

I am not a pro..not even close, so therefore I do not seek enormous mass at the expense of my health.

 

[Jake]

I hear you RR.....for me I have to try to keep Test at minimum though. I aromatize too much otherwise. I'm at 16 weeks right now on 200 of deca with 200 test, and absolutely no side effects at all from the DECA! Just benefits only! It's like a magic formula, magic potion!

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That is so good to hear brother. The best part is that if you wanted to do a cycle,then all you would need is to keep the 200 test and 200 deca, then add eq or primo. If ya feelin bad azz then kick with tbol or dbol

 

[TotalPackage]

Yep, I mean I can't say enough about it! Your dad preaches it all the time just like you! Especially for us older guys man it is just a fountain of youth formula! I honestly can't say enough about it!

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[cbbram00]

It is different for you because you are past the 450mg zone.After 450mgs then 300 test is fine. The 300/500 is great for those looking for mass, and does indeed work..again because you are over the 450mg range. The equal to or greater than rule has been the standard since after only a few years of deca being on the market in the 60's.

Makes a lot of sense... Very good info here...



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