What are the Pros and Cons or S23 vs. S4? There dont seem to be many studies on S23.
S23 vs. S4
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S23 is more like taking a steroid and less like a sarm. More sides, shut down etc.
What exactly are your goals?
yk 11 is in the same category ...a buddy of mine is currently using s 23 at 20 mg/day from pharma lady , he has a test base of 175 mg/ week though ...he says the strength/vascularity/drying and fat burning effect is on par with ~300 mg of tren ace/week ... Potent af
s23 is a male contraceptive and extremely suppressive.. there is no comparison.. im not sure how s23 is even considered a sarm because on paper, it truly is not... it should be categorized with steroids, not sarms...
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Definitely got my attention with this... Might have to give it a go!
That's a pretty tall claim
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Indeed....
he said only about the strength/vascularity/drying .... not gains/nutrient partitioning , well he did say fat loss but i think he mistakes it with water weight loss
i dont think your friend has a clue what hes talking about and/or is completely over exaggerating to say the least..
he finished a run of tren ace 300 mg with test P 350 mg/week for 8 weeks (also from pharma lady) and now he's cruising on 175 test p 25mg provi and 20 mg s 23 , (a month ago he started the cruise) , he's highly experienced with anabolics , 10+ cycles (4 of them tren) . He's easily maintaning his bf/vascularity and makes strength gains now , i see the way he performs and looks in the gym everyday and he's on a maintenance calorie diet ...He said if he doesn't split the s23 in 2 dosages he even experiences the Tren aggressions on 20 mg 1h pre workout ...
Key is that he just finished tren right before. It is what it is but you cannot put the two in the same league for comparison.
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You also have to factor in dosing. 300 mg of tren compared to just 400 is significantly different. Now side effects factor in there and im quicker to recommend a more moderate dose of tren, like 300 but it is more moderate
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Honestly hard to believe that S23 is being compared to a true AAS.
And not just an aas.....the most powerful one of all
it is comparable to steroids because on paper, thats basically what it is... it shouldnt be categorized as a sarm... comparing it to tren is WAY over the top but its definitely something you could compare to winstrol for example.. the issue is that there is nothing in terms of any sort of studies done... its so minimal and you are just putting yourself out there...
even his mental focus/attitude is the same as he never stopped the blast, his strength gains/blood pressure/body heat is the same and keeps making more progress , it's just like he's still on tren cycle . No tren somnia/night sweats however.I dare anyone of you to try it and see for yourself , i would have ran it myself but i have other plans right now, might give it a run before summer
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