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Professional Athlete- My first cycle ever. Advice??

Freak_21

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What's up guys I am looking for expert advice. I am a professional athlete recovering from injury and coming off a year of rehab. I've gone from 221 to 193 and its disgusts me. I'm still "ripped" but I just look skinny and I've lost a lot of strength. My agent has set me up with a Dr that he sends all of his clients to and for drug testing timing purposes he has given me:

16 week cycle
Testosterone Sustanon 600mg/wk
Equipoise 400mg/wk
Winstrol 400mg/wk (Oral)
Arimidex
Clomid
Nolvadex

My question is when do I take what and how often? When do I start taking the arimidex, clomid and nolvadex? I've gotten a pretty good idea from Dylan Gemelli's video's (Dude is a genius) but I'll take all of the advice I can get. I am 6'2 and my goal is to get back to the 225 pound range while maintaining my low BF% (7%) and my speed and explosiveness 4.34- 40 and 44.5" vertical jump. I'm open to all help, advice, criticism etc..... I just refuse to start until I know I'm doing it right. My life and body is more important than football.

Thanks
 
Freak_21 said:
What's up guys I am looking for expert advice. I am a professional athlete recovering from injury and coming off a year of rehab. I've gone from 221 to 193 and its disgusts me. I'm still "ripped" but I just look skinny and I've lost a lot of strength. My agent has set me up with a Dr that he sends all of his clients to and for drug testing timing purposes he has given me:

16 week cycle
Testosterone Sustanon 600mg/wk
Equipoise 400mg/wk
Winstrol 400mg/wk (Oral)
Arimidex
Clomid
Nolvadex

My question is when do I take what and how often? When do I start taking the arimidex, clomid and nolvadex? I've gotten a pretty good idea from Dylan Gemelli's video's (Dude is a genius) but I'll take all of the advice I can get. I am 6'2 and my goal is to get back to the 225 pound range while maintaining my low BF% (7%) and my speed and explosiveness 4.34- 40 and 44.5" vertical jump. I'm open to all help, advice, criticism etc..... I just refuse to start until I know I'm doing it right. My life and body is more important than football.

Thanks

Start taking your sustanon and eq 1-16 weeks
Split your dosage into two injections weekly
aromasin 12.5 mg EOD the whole cycle
winny will come in last as a finisher. Probably the last 4 weeks however im not sure about that as I dont use winny. Pct starts 2 weeks after your last injection
 
I misread your AI. .I thought you were taking aromasin not arimidex. ..aromasin is way better. Im not sure the dosing protocol on dex as I dont use it
 
I would up your eq, that's just my opinion tho. Nolva use in your pct and arimidex as needed if you have a problem with estrogen, clomid in pct as well. You also are in the top ten for one of the fastest 40 times in the nfl I'm pretty sure lol. I don't think you will have a problem at all meeting your goals with that cycle with diet and training. You are 6'2 so 225 should not be a problem weight for you.


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I also want to mention that winny is gona dry your joints out...not recommended at all if ur a football player. Winny is used for drying out right before a contest. I see no benefit for u on it
 
As cmb mentioned, I would look into some legit tbol. It will be a better fit for you my man.


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Re: RE: Professional Athlete- My first cycle ever. Advice??

Freak_21 said:
What's up guys I am looking for expert advice. I am a professional athlete recovering from injury and coming off a year of rehab. I've gone from 221 to 193 and its disgusts me. I'm still "ripped" but I just look skinny and I've lost a lot of strength. My agent has set me up with a Dr that he sends all of his clients to and for drug testing timing purposes he has given me:

16 week cycle
Testosterone Sustanon 600mg/wk
Equipoise 400mg/wk
Winstrol 400mg/wk (Oral)
Arimidex
Clomid
Nolvadex

My question is when do I take what and how often? When do I start taking the arimidex, clomid and nolvadex? I've gotten a pretty good idea from Dylan Gemelli's video's (Dude is a genius) but I'll take all of the advice I can get. I am 6'2 and my goal is to get back to the 225 pound range while maintaining my low BF% (7%) and my speed and explosiveness 4.34- 40 and 44.5" vertical jump. I'm open to all help, advice, criticism etc..... I just refuse to start until I know I'm doing it right. My life and body is more important than football.

Thanks
You should definitely look into adding a sarms supper stack. The mk2866 would be great to help you with your recovery of your injury. Also, with you bring an athlete and having such great speed, the gw will be awesome for you. Then the lgd and s4 would just be great bonuses in helping you get your weight and strength back up. You can find these products and all the information you need at www.pureessence.com also, here on the forum there is a wealth of knowledge about these products and loads of videos explaining them in the videopedia section. Welcome to adrenaline rush, bro, you'll love it here.

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Freak_21 said:
What's up guys I am looking for expert advice. I am a professional athlete recovering from injury and coming off a year of rehab. I've gone from 221 to 193 and its disgusts me. I'm still "ripped" but I just look skinny and I've lost a lot of strength. My agent has set me up with a Dr that he sends all of his clients to and for drug testing timing purposes he has given me:

16 week cycle
Testosterone Sustanon 600mg/wk
Equipoise 400mg/wk
Winstrol 400mg/wk (Oral)
Arimidex
Clomid
Nolvadex

My question is when do I take what and how often? When do I start taking the arimidex, clomid and nolvadex? I've gotten a pretty good idea from Dylan Gemelli's video's (Dude is a genius) but I'll take all of the advice I can get. I am 6'2 and my goal is to get back to the 225 pound range while maintaining my low BF% (7%) and my speed and explosiveness 4.34- 40 and 44.5" vertical jump. I'm open to all help, advice, criticism etc..... I just refuse to start until I know I'm doing it right. My life and body is more important than football.

Thanks


Your cycle looks decent but I would do some modifications to it, including implementing some sarms for more benefits

1-16 Sustanon 500mg per week
1-16 EQ 600mg per week
1-6 Tbol 60mg per week
1-16 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
5-16 MK-2866 25mg per day
5-16 S4 50mg per day
5-16 GW-501516 20mg per day
5-16 LGD 10mg per day
1-16 Cycle assist

Get your sarms at the highest quality from www.pureessencesarms.com

PCT

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK-2866 25mg ED
GW 20mg per day
 
I would drop the winny and up the eq by 200 more mg...and done deal! You gotta grow on 600eq/600sus. Now if you got joint aches then deca is my fav for that.Then.. keep your sus and eq where they are and drop the winny and add 200mg deca.Min 14 weeks! 16 is better.
 
This is some great information fellas! Thank you all for the prompt responses. I have a few more questions though based off of the responses. My agent and Dr told me Winstrol is best for fast twitch muscle fiber.... Is that true? And by dry out do you mean dehydrate? I have sickle cell trait and a bad problem with cramps so if that's the case in not touching it, even though I drink a gallon of water a day. Also should I not use the arimidex and get aromasin instead? What makes it better? Is there something else you would recommend for fast twitch muscle fiber?

My 40 was the fastest in our organization
(NY GIANTS Pre-Season before I got hurt) and one of the fastest in the league. I ran a 4.26 hand timed 40, but I never mention it because it's hand timed. I promise you guys I'm not wasting your time. I have standing broad jump of 11'3" also. Explosive power and athleticism is my game and I need to get back to being elite. I also have run track professionally. I tore my plantar fascia and broke my right arm so I've been out of training for a while. I had to work a "real job" which is fine but I'm only 26 and I'm in my athletic prime. I'm not ready to hang them up yet.

Here's video evidence from a few years ago. These numbers are not my best but still good nonetheless.

http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri= ... XU-srcAHkA

http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri= ... TO8fvbFyU8
 
That is wild man, i seen your 40 time and was like he's fast. I don't really know why I know top ten fastest 40's in the nfl, I can't even remember my phone number lol. Back to the cycle, winstrol will dry you out... I like winstrol but I get better results from tbol, that's just my opinion man everyone is different. I would stay away from winstrol, your knees, elbows, ankles and wrists will thank you for it lol. I know when I'm on winstrol and its summer no matter what I do I'll get muscle cramps and they suck.


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Re: RE: Professional Athlete- My first cycle ever. Advice??

ibleedoranbla said:
Freak_21 said:
What's up guys I am looking for expert advice. I am a professional athlete recovering from injury and coming off a year of rehab. I've gone from 221 to 193 and its disgusts me. I'm still "ripped" but I just look skinny and I've lost a lot of strength. My agent has set me up with a Dr that he sends all of his clients to and for drug testing timing purposes he has given me:

16 week cycle
Testosterone Sustanon 600mg/wk
Equipoise 400mg/wk
Winstrol 400mg/wk (Oral)
Arimidex
Clomid
Nolvadex

My question is when do I take what and how often? When do I start taking the arimidex, clomid and nolvadex? I've gotten a pretty good idea from Dylan Gemelli's video's (Dude is a genius) but I'll take all of the advice I can get. I am 6'2 and my goal is to get back to the 225 pound range while maintaining my low BF% (7%) and my speed and explosiveness 4.34- 40 and 44.5" vertical jump. I'm open to all help, advice, criticism etc..... I just refuse to start until I know I'm doing it right. My life and body is more important than football.

Thanks
You should definitely look into adding a sarms supper stack. The mk2866 would be great to help you with your recovery of your injury. Also, with you bring an athlete and having such great speed, the gw will be awesome for you. Then the lgd and s4 would just be great bonuses in helping you get your weight and strength back up. You can find these products and all the information you need at http://www.pureessence.com also, here on the forum there is a wealth of knowledge about these products and loads of videos explaining them in the videopedia section. Welcome to adrenaline rush, bro, you'll love it here.

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Trust me I'm already loving it here! There's a wealth of information and I'm excited to start my cycle....eventually. You've peaked my interest in "Sarms" what are they and how long do they last in your system? To answer the people who've recommended Deca, I've been advised to stay away from it because it lasts in your system too long. I'm going to youtube tbol, does Gemelli have vids on it?
 
Re: RE: Re: RE: Professional Athlete- My first cycle ever. Advice??

Freak_21 said:
ibleedoranbla said:
Freak_21 said:
What's up guys I am looking for expert advice. I am a professional athlete recovering from injury and coming off a year of rehab. I've gone from 221 to 193 and its disgusts me. I'm still "ripped" but I just look skinny and I've lost a lot of strength. My agent has set me up with a Dr that he sends all of his clients to and for drug testing timing purposes he has given me:

16 week cycle
Testosterone Sustanon 600mg/wk
Equipoise 400mg/wk
Winstrol 400mg/wk (Oral)
Arimidex
Clomid
Nolvadex

My question is when do I take what and how often? When do I start taking the arimidex, clomid and nolvadex? I've gotten a pretty good idea from Dylan Gemelli's video's (Dude is a genius) but I'll take all of the advice I can get. I am 6'2 and my goal is to get back to the 225 pound range while maintaining my low BF% (7%) and my speed and explosiveness 4.34- 40 and 44.5" vertical jump. I'm open to all help, advice, criticism etc..... I just refuse to start until I know I'm doing it right. My life and body is more important than football.

Thanks
You should definitely look into adding a sarms supper stack. The mk2866 would be great to help you with your recovery of your injury. Also, with you bring an athlete and having such great speed, the gw will be awesome for you. Then the lgd and s4 would just be great bonuses in helping you get your weight and strength back up. You can find these products and all the information you need at http://www.pureessence.com also, here on the forum there is a wealth of knowledge about these products and loads of videos explaining them in the videopedia section. Welcome to adrenaline rush, bro, you'll love it here.

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Trust me I'm already loving it here! There's a wealth of information and I'm excited to start my cycle....eventually. You've peaked my interest in "Sarms" what are they and how long do they last in your system? To answer the people who've recommended Deca, I've been advised to stay away from it because it lasts in your system too long. I'm going to youtube tbol, does Gemelli have vids on it?
Dylan just recently did a video on tbol. I'm on day 5 of Tbol right now and I'm loving it. As far as sarms go, Dylan has tons of videos on them as well, here on the forum under the videopedia section, his YouTube channel, and at www.pureessence.com under the information section. The detection tube of sarms I'm not too sure about, so I'll have to let Dylan answer that question. Sarms are a great addition to any cycle or as a standalone. They stand for selective androgen receptor modulators. Basically they have selectivity over which receptors they bind to, meaning solid lean muscle gains without the negative side effects of aas.

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Re: RE: Re: RE: Professional Athlete- My first cycle ever. Advice??

Freak_21 said:
ibleedoranbla said:
Freak_21 said:
What's up guys I am looking for expert advice. I am a professional athlete recovering from injury and coming off a year of rehab. I've gone from 221 to 193 and its disgusts me. I'm still "ripped" but I just look skinny and I've lost a lot of strength. My agent has set me up with a Dr that he sends all of his clients to and for drug testing timing purposes he has given me:

16 week cycle
Testosterone Sustanon 600mg/wk
Equipoise 400mg/wk
Winstrol 400mg/wk (Oral)
Arimidex
Clomid
Nolvadex

My question is when do I take what and how often? When do I start taking the arimidex, clomid and nolvadex? I've gotten a pretty good idea from Dylan Gemelli's video's (Dude is a genius) but I'll take all of the advice I can get. I am 6'2 and my goal is to get back to the 225 pound range while maintaining my low BF% (7%) and my speed and explosiveness 4.34- 40 and 44.5" vertical jump. I'm open to all help, advice, criticism etc..... I just refuse to start until I know I'm doing it right. My life and body is more important than football.

Thanks
You should definitely look into adding a sarms supper stack. The mk2866 would be great to help you with your recovery of your injury. Also, with you bring an athlete and having such great speed, the gw will be awesome for you. Then the lgd and s4 would just be great bonuses in helping you get your weight and strength back up. You can find these products and all the information you need at http://www.pureessence.com also, here on the forum there is a wealth of knowledge about these products and loads of videos explaining them in the videopedia section. Welcome to adrenaline rush, bro, you'll love it here.

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Trust me I'm already loving it here! There's a wealth of information and I'm excited to start my cycle....eventually. You've peaked my interest in "Sarms" what are they and how long do they last in your system? To answer the people who've recommended Deca, I've been advised to stay away from it because it lasts in your system too long. I'm going to youtube tbol, does Gemelli have vids on it?
Dylan has videos on Tbol, other AAS, and SARMS. Check out his YouTube channel or our videopedia section for a lot of great informative videos
 
RickRock said:
Freak_21 said:
What's up guys I am looking for expert advice. I am a professional athlete recovering from injury and coming off a year of rehab. I've gone from 221 to 193 and its disgusts me. I'm still "ripped" but I just look skinny and I've lost a lot of strength. My agent has set me up with a Dr that he sends all of his clients to and for drug testing timing purposes he has given me:

16 week cycle
Testosterone Sustanon 600mg/wk
Equipoise 400mg/wk
Winstrol 400mg/wk (Oral)
Arimidex
Clomid
Nolvadex

My question is when do I take what and how often? When do I start taking the arimidex, clomid and nolvadex? I've gotten a pretty good idea from Dylan Gemelli's video's (Dude is a genius) but I'll take all of the advice I can get. I am 6'2 and my goal is to get back to the 225 pound range while maintaining my low BF% (7%) and my speed and explosiveness 4.34- 40 and 44.5" vertical jump. I'm open to all help, advice, criticism etc..... I just refuse to start until I know I'm doing it right. My life and body is more important than football.

Thanks


Your cycle looks decent but I would do some modifications to it, including implementing some sarms for more benefits

1-16 Sustanon 500mg per week
1-16 EQ 600mg per week
1-6 Tbol 60mg per week
1-16 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
5-16 MK-2866 25mg per day
5-16 S4 50mg per day
5-16 GW-501516 20mg per day
5-16 LGD 10mg per day
1-16 Cycle assist

Get your sarms at the highest quality from http://www.pureessencesarms.com

PCT

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK-2866 25mg ED
GW 20mg per day


I just looked at the site and watched Dylan's video. I'm going to buy the SARMS super stack as well as the PCT stack. Here's a question for you is Aromasin so much better than Arimidex that I should buy it after having already bought the Arimidex?
 
Freak_21 said:
RickRock said:
http://www.pureessencesarms.com[/url]

PCT

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK-2866 25mg ED
GW 20mg per day


I just looked at the site and watched Dylan's video. I'm going to buy the SARMS super stack as well as the PCT stack. Here's a question for you is Aromasin so much better than Arimidex that I should buy it after having already bought the Arimidex?[/quote:142vt056]


Arimadex is an effective AI, but Aromasin is superior in every way. Aromasin will increase free test, lower SHBG, increase libido, increase IGF levels, does not negatively affect lipids like arimadex, and is a suicidal aromatose inhibitor making it more effective by killing estrogen at the enzyme level without crushing your estrogen. There is simply nothing better than what Aromasin does
 
RickRock said:
Freak_21 said:
RickRock said:


Arimadex is an effective AI, but Aromasin is superior in every way. Aromasin will increase free test, lower SHBG, increase libido, increase IGF levels, does not negatively affect lipids like arimadex, and is a suicidal aromatose inhibitor making it more effective by killing estrogen at the enzyme level without crushing your estrogen. There is simply nothing better than what Aromasin does[/quote:3t94x9fk]


Thanks for all of your help boss! I was told sites like this don't normally help newbies but that has not been the case! I have followed up on all of your advice, I up'd my EQ to 600 and added Aromasin, Tbol 60mg/wk and the super stack as well as the post cycle of SARMS. I'm EXCITED TO GET STARTED. Can you tell me exactly what cycle assist is?
 
Freak_21 said:
RickRock said:


Arimadex is an effective AI, but Aromasin is superior in every way. Aromasin will increase free test, lower SHBG, increase libido, increase IGF levels, does not negatively affect lipids like arimadex, and is a suicidal aromatose inhibitor making it more effective by killing estrogen at the enzyme level without crushing your estrogen. There is simply nothing better than what Aromasin does[/quote:2vb8uhq8]


Thanks for all of your help boss! I was told sites like this don't normally help newbies but that has not been the case! I have followed up on all of your advice, I up'd my EQ to 600 and added Aromasin, Tbol 60mg/wk and the super stack as well as the post cycle of SARMS. I'm EXCITED TO GET STARTED. Can you tell me exactly what cycle assist is?[/quote:2vb8uhq8]


http://www.dpsnutrition.net/i/18031/com ... ArMf8P8HAQ

This is where I get mine. Its good stuff at a good price. This one made by CEL is top of the line IMO
 
Freak_21 said:
RickRock said:


Arimadex is an effective AI, but Aromasin is superior in every way. Aromasin will increase free test, lower SHBG, increase libido, increase IGF levels, does not negatively affect lipids like arimadex, and is a suicidal aromatose inhibitor making it more effective by killing estrogen at the enzyme level without crushing your estrogen. There is simply nothing better than what Aromasin does[/quote:12j5f4rg]


Thanks for all of your help boss! I was told sites like this don't normally help newbies but that has not been the case! I have followed up on all of your advice, I up'd my EQ to 600 and added Aromasin, Tbol 60mg/wk and the super stack as well as the post cycle of SARMS. I'm EXCITED TO GET STARTED. Can you tell me exactly what cycle assist is?[/quote:12j5f4rg]


That's no problem at all man! That's what this site is all about, and that's what we are here for. We take care of each other here. Cycle assist is a cycle support product made by CEL. We typically recommend it because it's relatively inexpensive but effective. You can google it and find it many places for about 30$ a bottle
 
You are right about deca staying in the system for months, but it sure makes the old joints feel better. If you are drug tested then those cyps stay kind of long too. Maybe short chained stuff would be best for you. My wife is a biker and gets tested under the world anti doping agency rules. She just found out that she cannot take sarms. So if you are tested maybe we better re-think yoour cycle.
 
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