Hello everybody! Have been here on the forums for a while now, and decided to run my first cycle. What are your thoughts of a cycle of Epi and Trenavar? What supporting gear should I use? What do you think about my PCT?
Need opinions on first cycle
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These are prohormones you are planning to run, and I would not recommend you to run them, be it a first cycle, or a 10th cycle. They have been banned recently, and being legal was their only advantage over steroids. Now that they are illegal, they don't have even a single advantage over ordinary steroids. They are not as powerful, have more side effects, and they are extremely liver toxic. You will get much better results from a test solo cycle. This cycle will give you some amazing results. It should look like this:
1. Weeks 1-12 - Testosterone Enanthate at 400 mgs EW
2. Weeks 1-12 - Aromasin 10 mgs EOD.
Weeks 12-14 - Break
Weeks 14-22 - PCT
The PCT should contain Clomid, Nolvadex, HCGenerate ES, and Ostarine. This kind of PCT will allow you to keep most of the gains made on cycle, and you will recover faster.
1. Weeks 1-12 - Testosterone Enanthate at 400 mgs EW
2. Weeks 1-12 - Aromasin 10 mgs EOD.
Weeks 12-14 - Break
Weeks 14-22 - PCT
The PCT should contain Clomid, Nolvadex, HCGenerate ES, and Ostarine. This kind of PCT will allow you to keep most of the gains made on cycle, and you will recover faster.
First of all - thanks for the insight. However, I would like not to make injections - could you advise me on something milder? This was the initial reason I wanted to use epi and trenavar.... Also, wouldn't the aromatase inhibitor reduce my muscle gains and make me get more fat? Thanks!
Well, in such case a cycle of SARMs would be better suited for you. It does not require injections, and is much safer than steroids. SARMs do not have side effects, so they require considerably less ancillaries and a milder PCT. Therefore, my recommendation would be to run a SARMs triple stack - Cardarine GW-501516 at 12.5 mgs per day, Ostarine MK-2866 at 25 mg per day, and Andarine S4 at 50 mgs per day. Use them all for 12 weeks, and split the dosages in two - one taken in AM, and the other one prior to working out or PM. They are much more convenient than steroids are, as you just drop the liquids in your mouth. A little recommendation regarding S4 - for the first two weeks use just 25 mgs per day, so the two split dosages would be 12.5 mgs. Then, from the third week on use the full 50 mgs dosage, which will be split in two 25 mgs dosages during the day.
As for the aromatase inhibitor - it will do the contrary to what you think. Aromasin will increase free test levels, as well as it will increase IGF-1 levels by up to 25%. Also, by preventing estrogen buildup, aromasin will prevent water retention and fat accumulation. All in all, it is a very beneficial ancillary drug to use.
As for the aromatase inhibitor - it will do the contrary to what you think. Aromasin will increase free test levels, as well as it will increase IGF-1 levels by up to 25%. Also, by preventing estrogen buildup, aromasin will prevent water retention and fat accumulation. All in all, it is a very beneficial ancillary drug to use.
A guy I know at the gym is offering me some SARMs. They come in pills, and if I am not mistaken, the company is called maxlabs - any idea if they are worth a go? Also, you got me convinced with aromasin - where can I get it? Thanks
Those are not real sarms whatsoever and you need to stay a million miles away from them... the best company you can find for sarms will be called sarms x shortly but as of now is called pure essence... that's where you can get your aromasin as well... you will not find better quality than here... you need a strong first cycle... what you could do is take an oral like winstrol and stack it with your sarms stack as well... you could stick with epi if you have it... trenavar is a non methylated oral so it is okay but not the best in terms of much of anything... gains will be minimal with it... epi is very strong and worth a go but winstrol is my preference... my assumption is your are trying to shred up after seeing your selections of orals... here's the way i would run this...
1-12 sr9009 30 mg day... 5 mg split doses 2-3 hours apart
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 mk-2866 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
7-12 winstrol 50 mg day
7-12 cycle assist
pct 13-16
clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day
Don't take those, as SARMs should only come in liquid form. The real SARMs can be only acquired as research chems, which are suspended in alcohol based liquids. Therefore, the moment anyone offers you SARMS in pills or caps, you can be 100% sure that you are being offered a fake product. sarms1 and the above mentioned company by Dylan are good places to go to for your SARMs.
This is quite a good cycle - mild in terms of side effects, and yet very effective.
Thank you all for the extense and detailed responses! I will get my sarms from pure essence in such case - their prices seem affordable to me at the moment. Hope they deliver their stuff well enough. Will start the cycle after these vacations. Great to have such good people helping a brother out!
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