I have been on TRT for 4 months and I just want off. My blood thickens faster than they can do the phlebotomy,, as my blood thickens I just don't feel well overall, so for me it's not worth it. So my last does was just this past Friday Feb 3rd. Of 160mg. My question is how long should I wait to go on clomed and is there an online doctor for a prescription? Thanks for any and all help.
Need help high hematocrit
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Maxadvance
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If you're on TRT you should already have a doctor. If no, are you self medicating? What is your hematocrit? These posts are baffling to me, how can you expect any advice without posting protocols, lab results or any history whatsoever?
Yes I have a doctor, just not sure he will prescribe so I'm looking for backup. My hermatocrit on Feb 3 was 52. My test dosage is 160 per week. They tried going lower but blood still thickens. My other issue is sleep apnea. I can't wear a CPAP. I am going to consult with ENT doctor for surgery to help reduce or prevent snoring. It could be the apnea, but before taking TRT I had no issues as my bases hermatocrit was 47.
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I appreciate the advice, I'm just frustrated with the feeling I get the week prior to my blood draw. I don't feel good, I really can't workout that weeks as I just feel too fatigued and get like head pressure when lifting hard. I just think going with a clomid or HCG option to increase the test levels without the blood thickening.
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If you are a smoker, the first step to lower your hematocrit levels is to stop smoking. Tobacco alters the oxygen carrying red blood cells, so the flow is then altered in a negative sense. A smoker, having low oxygen levels, will force the bone marrow to produce more red blood cells, thereby increasing the blood hematocrit.
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Do physical activity on a moderate and gradual basis. Whenever you're doing any sports activity do not reach a state of exhaustion. This is when the body uses more oxygen from our blood. If you feel dizzy, stop exercising immediately.
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Donating blood is one of the measures to lower the hematocrit levels. By donating your blood, you are cleaning and renewing i, while you remove excess iron in your body. This is highly recommended if you also want to decrease your hematocrit levels.
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Maintain adequate hydration. Dehydration causes increased hematocrit levels along with a larger volume of blood and plasma because there is less body fluid to dilute the blood. So, it is very important that you are well hydrated for your hematocrit levels not to skyrocket upwards. Increase your fluid intake in your daily diet to prevent this from happening. It is recommended that you drink a minimum of eight glasses of water on a daily basis.
You must avoid drinks with alcohol or caffeine as they are diuretic and they stimulate urine, thus causing dehydration. To lower the hematocrit it is best to drink water or unsweetened juice.
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Take an aspirin a couple of times a month. Aspirin helps dilute the blood and it prevents clot formation. When you have a high hematocrit level, the blood becomes thicker, so aspirin helps prevent this from happening. Nevertheless, you should not abuse the consumption of aspirin, two per month will be more than enough. Overdosing on aspirin is not beneficial because the blood becomes far too thin to and small cuts could bleed too much.
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Change your regular diet and adapt it to make it easier to lower your hematocrit levels. You can do this by taking following these tips:
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It is considered that living above 2,000 metres from sea level increases the level of hematocrit in the blood, given that the bone marrow produces more red globes to compensate the low oxygen levels in these zones. For this reason, avoid altitudes and move to lower areas.
If you are a smoker, the first step to lower your hematocrit levels is to stop smoking. Tobacco alters the oxygen carrying red blood cells, so the flow is then altered in a negative sense. A smoker, having low oxygen levels, will force the bone marrow to produce more red blood cells, thereby increasing the blood hematocrit.
2
Do physical activity on a moderate and gradual basis. Whenever you're doing any sports activity do not reach a state of exhaustion. This is when the body uses more oxygen from our blood. If you feel dizzy, stop exercising immediately.
3
Donating blood is one of the measures to lower the hematocrit levels. By donating your blood, you are cleaning and renewing i, while you remove excess iron in your body. This is highly recommended if you also want to decrease your hematocrit levels.
4
Maintain adequate hydration. Dehydration causes increased hematocrit levels along with a larger volume of blood and plasma because there is less body fluid to dilute the blood. So, it is very important that you are well hydrated for your hematocrit levels not to skyrocket upwards. Increase your fluid intake in your daily diet to prevent this from happening. It is recommended that you drink a minimum of eight glasses of water on a daily basis.
You must avoid drinks with alcohol or caffeine as they are diuretic and they stimulate urine, thus causing dehydration. To lower the hematocrit it is best to drink water or unsweetened juice.
Take an aspirin a couple of times a month. Aspirin helps dilute the blood and it prevents clot formation. When you have a high hematocrit level, the blood becomes thicker, so aspirin helps prevent this from happening. Nevertheless, you should not abuse the consumption of aspirin, two per month will be more than enough. Overdosing on aspirin is not beneficial because the blood becomes far too thin to and small cuts could bleed too much.
6
Change your regular diet and adapt it to make it easier to lower your hematocrit levels. You can do this by taking following these tips:
- Increase your consumption of antioxidant foods because they facilitate the transport of oxygen in your body. Antioxidants help in supplying oxygen to the blood to flow normally. Excellent antioxidant foods include prunes, beans and berries.
- Avoid foods that are high in iron since this mineral provides your body with haemoglobin. Avoid eating foods that are high in iron like spinach, broccoli, fish, beef, turkey, chicken, clams and mussels.
- Consume grapefruit daily because according to recent studies, eating half a grapefruit per day lowers hematocrit levels because naringin, a flavonoid that facilitates the process of natural elimination of red blood cells.
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It is considered that living above 2,000 metres from sea level increases the level of hematocrit in the blood, given that the bone marrow produces more red globes to compensate the low oxygen levels in these zones. For this reason, avoid altitudes and move to lower areas.
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It's hard for me believe that a 52 hematocrit is responsible for making you feel that uncomfortable. In some ranges a 52 falls under normal. I have high hematocrit as well, but really don't feel uncomfortable unless it approaches 55+. That being said your sleep apnea, as you already know by the looks of it, can raise your hematocrit by 10-15% on it's own. Hopefully you can find a remedy without a cpap. If you're overweight that is a strong factor in sleep apnea, losing weight would help greatly.
In the meantime, pop a baby aspirin daily and stay hydrated, and supplement with up to 3 grams a day of EPA/DHA. This will help.
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They do have meds for that as well of course, if your working with a doctor how come they have not prescribe you any ?
The sleep apnea could be what is causing the high hematocrit. When you sleep, you aren't getting sufficient oxygen..similar to high altitude. I have known 2 people who had sleep apnea before going on TRT. They had to give blood every 16 weeks to keep it below 50. Once they went on TRT, they had to give blood 8 weeks, sometimes more to get it under control. They got the sleep apnea addressed and now 1 never has to give blood even on TRT and cycles and the other is back to every 3-4 months. Just fyi
He went to doctor and they had him spend the night twice while they ran all sorts of test. The end result was a CPAP. He sleeps better now and as I said, rarely has to give blood. Does so more out of habit than necessity. Diet and hydration may play a big role as well - as Dylan noted above. My diet is on point, I consume 8 servings of veggies a day, grapefruit 3x week and drink about 1 1/2 gallons of water per day. My hematocrit actually went down on cycle? Had multiple test on cycle and each showed stable hematocrit or lower than pre-cycle levels. However, once it's elevated, from what I have heard and read, donating is the solution.
Wow, that's some great information. I have been drinking a lot over the holidays. Also I was trying a steak and eggs diet. Did that every day where I had two steaks and 10 eggs. I did lose about 8lbs, but could have caused the hermatocrit to rise having all the rest meat. I don't smoke and I lift weights almost every day and golf 2-3 times a week.
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I tried the mask after a sleep study. Tried every fitting mask possible just could get any sleep. Going next week toeet ENT doctor to discuss surgery options for the snoring.
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I am over weight. 6'4" 290 I do lift a lot of weights but, I'm a good 40lbs heavier than I should be. That with the alcohol consumption too high and the apnea, I just have to get some things in order. Thinks I get my diet in check cut way back on the alcohol and do like 60-90 days of clomid, than back to TRT.
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Well there ya go. The alcohol will definitely dry you out, so hydrating especially in the morning when you wake up will help a lot. Look into a ketogenic diet, if you can stick with it and supplement properly(3-4 grams of epa/dha daily, not just fish oil but just the omegas) you will lose a lot fast, and the omegas will drastically reduce your triglycerides and improve your cholesterol/lipids
Roger that headed to Amazon for some epa/dha. Also today I started phentermine. All I can is wow. It killed any thought of food through out the day.
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Turns out my fish oil pills have all that EPA/DHA
WHC - UnoCardio 1000 (60 Softgels) - 1280 mg of pure Triglyceride fish oil with high concentration omega-3 (1185 mg), 652 mg EPA and 440 mg DHA and 25 mcg (1000 IU) vitamin D3 per softgel
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That's pretty good, especially if it's in triglyceride form, take at least 3 of those a day. I use the OmegaVia brand, separate bottles of the EPA and DHA
I was only taking 1 a day until.about 3 days ago than started on 2 a day. Will look to add 1 more.
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