Mast Prop + Test Prop Dosage

[kuperton]

Hi Dylan,

I'll give some information about my stats first. I've been training for 10 years naturally and got pretty big (1.77 M , 84 KG / 185 LBS , 26 years old, BF around 10 % ). A few months ago I decided to start a cycle cause I was always curious about what it would do to me. I saw so many guys using it when they were half my size and after like 1/2 years and they got pretty massive which made me jealous sometimes haha. I've did a lot of research on gear for many years and a couple of months ago I did my first ever cycle which was a basic one with test E 500 MG a week. It took about 4/5 weeks to kick-in. I decided to even increase the test to 750 cause to be honest I wasn't really having feeling it that good (although I saw you don't recommend that) in week 7/8 I felt like superman and I got my sides perfectly under control with Aromasin which REALLY helped. I went from 84 to 92 and now I'm back at 86,5 KG which is still pretty good as i'm getting pretty close to my "natural" limit.

My second cycle I wanna do mast prop and test prop cause I have experience with injecting now and I usually hear more positive things about prop cause it makes you harder and you don't have to wait another 2 weeks at the end of your cycle for PCT. My goal with mast and prop is just getting a little bit bigger and leaner, I don't want to use it for bulk or cut (prefer a clean bulk). In December I wanna try something like dbol or anadrol for the bulk.

But now my question to you is :

What dosage would you recommend me for mast prop and the test prop? I can have more than other people as I learned how my body works compared to others. Test E 750 was perfect for me so I'm thinking about doing

mast prop = 600 or 800 ?
Test prop = I'm actually not sure about this one... Some people recommend doing it higher and when I hear other people say that you should up the mast for optimal effect.

It's a 12 week cycle by the way , HCG is included , Nolvadex for PCT and Aromasin as a backup (i hear Mast does help a lot so but i still want it if i'm getting some strange sides)

 

[DylanGemelli]

bro, that cycle was a horrible failure.. you gained little and you did things completely wrong... what country are you ? what are your stats? age/height/weight/body fat?

i dont advise any sort of reckless steroid use and that is clearly the only way you know how to use them... mast for an AI... bro, okay, just stop, please... you dont know what you are doing... you are doing some highly foolish things and i dont think i guarantee you are going to cause yourself long term issues... you need to make up your mind but this is NOTHING i want anything to do with ..

 

[kuperton]

Yo Dylan,

Thanks for your response. To be honest it was not really a failure cause I won some weight and I mostly kep'd my strength. You can't expect for someone like me who has been training for 10 years naturally to stay at 202 pounds when I'm 5'10 , 26 years old and stay at 10 percent bodyfat (or lower) haha I'm not some roid meat head mate. That would put me on a FFMI of 26.01. Right now i'm back at 190 lbs , i think i could get some more gains but i prefer staying lean so that's why i dropped some weight. I'm also not saying I will use masteron for an AI (not at all) just wondering what an AI would do in combination with test and mast (prop), I think aromasin did a great job keeping my sides low. My question is just what would you recommend me for dosages on mast and test (my body can handle more than other people).

Thanks again , i watch your videos daily !

bro, that cycle was a horrible failure.. you gained little and you did things completely wrong... what country are you ? what are your stats? age/height/weight/body fat?

i dont advise any sort of reckless steroid use and that is clearly the only way you know how to use them... mast for an AI... bro, okay, just stop, please... you dont know what you are doing... you are doing some highly foolish things and i dont think i guarantee you are going to cause yourself long term issues... you need to make up your mind but this is NOTHING i want anything to do with ..

 

[DylanGemelli]

i guess if you think gaining 8 kg then dropping 5.5 of it is a success then thats on you... i run mast prop 200 mg eod... theres no reason to go crazy on test... 100-150 mg eod... good luck. you seem like you think you know exactly what you are doing so im not sure what you needed my help for?

 

[kuperton]

i guess if you think gaining 8 kg then dropping 5.5 of it is a success then thats on you... i run mast prop 200 mg eod... theres no reason to go crazy on test... 100-150 mg eod... good luck. you seem like you think you know exactly what you are doing so im not sure what you needed my help for?

Ye well, as you already saw in my first post I upped the dose to 750 test e (first cycle ever) after being 10 years natural, when I did that I gained some water weight. I know it's stupid in your ears but I just felt like I just needed that extra push. Also losing 5.5 KG was because also "life" got between it. I see enough people that do way more crazier shit on their first cycle when they are not even CLOSE to reaching their natural potential. I'm not saying I reached that but I was just curious about what it would do to me as I'm already training 10 years and got a really decent size without gear.

I just wanted an opinion from an experienced user and not some meat head at the gym. What are the benefits of using mast higher than test? Also can it be the other way around too (test higher then mast), what are the advantages?