JackSteel
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Have to lift heavy????
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In all seriousness this goes back to what sport or goal you are training for. It's intuitive that more muscle size means more strength. ..Unfortunately, that is not always the case. So yes, you can build large amounts of muscle and not lift heavy but what is your goal. If it is for strength. ..I see only one path...I am sure there is plenty of science out there that is in direct contradiction of what I just said.. but it is just my opinion, from experience.
Agree on all counts
Testdude63
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Metabolic stress and overall work volume, when recovery is as optimal as possible, will be one of the main factors in driving hypertrophy. Do you have to lift incredibly heavy? Not necessarily. Do you have to work intensely? Absolutely 
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to truly gain muscle you do not always have to lift heavy... of course at times you should but you can do more volume mixed in with less and heavier weight... to truly gain size, constantly shocking your body by training in hypertrophy, which is heavier weight, 80-85% of your max at 8-10 reps, mixed with power 2-4 reps at 90-95% and then high volume where you are training with 60-65% at 15-20 reps... you also mix in concentric and eccentric contractions, etc... build muscular endurance with super sets and short rest periods of less than a minute... these ALL are what factor into building muscle... its finding a happy median on everything...
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You dont have to lift heavy to build muscle, you just need to have an acceptable resistance with progressive overload to make gains. On the flip side, usually when this occurs strength will increase thus making heavier weights a necessity. So i guess the question then would be, what is considered "heavy" ? It would all have to be relevant...
For me it's about progressive overload. Constantly doing either more weight or more reps than I did before to continue growth.
So you can call that heavy I guess. I can build muscle on lighter weight....just not as much lol. Just giving my thoughts on the subject
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So you can call that heavy I guess. I can build muscle on lighter weight....just not as much lol. Just giving my thoughts on the subject
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JackSteel
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It depends on the definition of "heavy". Yes you have to stress the muscle but "heavy" meaning 8 reps or less, for instance, is absolutely not necessary.
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Exactly!I lift as heavy as possible for as many reps as possible ALL the time
JackSteel
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A marathon runner is a bit different I think because your body is having to adjust to moving weight at a greater speed. In stationary lifting your boy doesn't have to worry about that.
Let's say someone lifts 25lb dumbells doing bicep curls for 15-20 reps and does that until it's easy. Then they progress to 30 or 35lb dumbells and do them until that's easy. Yes you are lifting HEAVIER but not HEAVY. Like Rick said its progressive overload. Low rep heavy weight builds strength and size generally but there are very small power lifters who are strong as fuck and never grow much. I truly believe that's a universal truth. Progressive overload and not as heavy as possible.
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JackSteel
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I'm pretty much in agreement with you. But I think it needs to be rotated or both are needed for overall progress.
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TexasTrash
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Very similar here. Heavy day is 8-10 reps (still do some higher rep sets to burn out and get a great pump at the end) and then light day is 16-22 reps. Also switch it up with barbell/dumbbells/machines...........do heavy and light on all of them. Basically I set a program and then switch it up with Im comfortable. Generally a program only lasts a few weeks before I change it but sometimes its longer and sometimes its shorter. Once in a blue moon Ill do a few sets that go as low as 2-4 reps but that is rare and generally only 1-2 sets for a single exercise.
i concur... that's the best way to get the most size... that's the base of lifts when your mixing it up... that should be the method you use the MOST yet still adding in the others at times to keep it mixed up and shocking your body but this is definitely the method to base it around
TexasTrash
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And I fully agree with your take on concentric and eccentric contractions. Its a great way to make a big change without making a big change. If that makes any sense. LOL
What is "heavy"??? Heavy for you may be light for me or vice versa. I think in order to build that true dense muscle, you have to lift heavy and mature. Of course contracting the fibers and activating proper muscles is important. But do you wonder why most dudes don't grow much in 5 or 6 years? Because they workout moderate to light weight and only go for that pump thinking that's going to microtear enough fibers to fully destroy and repair the muscle to grow significantly Chasing the pump is okay sometimes, but you HAVE TO MOVE SOME REAL FUCKING WEIGHT.
JackSteel
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Heavy is whatever is heavy for you. Whatever is challenging to get 10 or less reps in my opinion. I do not believe you need to do as heavy as possible. I have not lifted heavy for around the last 4 years and I've come a long way. I normally have done 15-20 reps and gotten as much pump as possible and it has done very well. Yes going heavy will build muscle as well but it is absolutely NOT necessary.
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