Did my first cc of test(250). Drawing with an 18 and pinning with a 25G 1-1/2. No major pain, little tiny bit of soreness in the bum. How deep do you usually go with a 1-1/2(been watching vids, hard to tell)? Also, this was the MGP test E 250 so I will be reporting on the effectiveness as I go(never ran anything before so this will be a very clear cut review). PS Thanks for all the help and information you guys provide, love the no BS attitude here at isarms.