cycle and the pct

[tehaner222]

Hey Dylan!

I've been watching your videos for quite sometime now. Well... I've been watch all the videos on steroids (and things of that nature) 'cuz I'm trying to do my homework like you always say. I've gravitated towards your videos 'cuz I love your "safe rather then sorry" approach. Especially when it comes to something like this (sorry for rambling haha) but I'm gonna be doing my second cycle relatively soon, and I was wondering if you could help me out with the cycle and the pct? I have some compounds in mind already, and would also like your opinion on the ones I've chosen.

If you're willing to help me out I thank you so much in advance Dylan! Keep up the good work my man!! I hope to here from you soon!

 

[gian]

What are your stats and goals?

 

[DylanGemelli]

thats impossible for me to answer when you literally give me nothing to work with... i dont know your cycle history, your goals?????????? your workout history? stats??? age/height/weight/body fat... you cannot expect any sort of valid answer when you give me nothing to work with…

 

[RickRock]

Hey Dylan!

I've been watching your videos for quite sometime now. Well... I've been watch all the videos on steroids (and things of that nature) 'cuz I'm trying to do my homework like you always say. I've gravitated towards your videos 'cuz I love your "safe rather then sorry" approach. Especially when it comes to something like this (sorry for rambling haha) but I'm gonna be doing my second cycle relatively soon, and I was wondering if you could help me out with the cycle and the pct? I have some compounds in mind already, and would also like your opinion on the ones I've chosen.

If you're willing to help me out I thank you so much in advance Dylan! Keep up the good work my man!! I hope to here from you soon!

We cannot advise you on anything without your full stats, goals, and experience

 

[DylanGemelli]

please provide the necessary info so we can properly help you

 

[tehaner222]

thats impossible for me to answer when you literally give me nothing to work with... i dont know your cycle history, your goals?????????? your workout history? stats??? age/height/weight/body fat... you cannot expect any sort of valid answer when you give me nothing to work with…

I'm sorry man. I hadn't given you any stats yet because I was waiting to see if you're willing to work with me first. But I'm 27/5"11/210 lbs/13-15% body fat. And I would like to compete in the classic physique division. I've been training naturally for seven years (started out at 148 ) and I'm currently on my first cycle of just testosterone, wich I had kickstarted with 50 mg of tbol for the first 4 weeks. With this cycle I tapered up to 500 mg per week and plan to taper down to 250. My pct for this cycle is going to be..
Clomid- 50/50/25/25
Nolva. - 40/40/20/20
Arom. - 12.5 mg ed
MK. - 25 mg ed
GW. -20 mg ed

As for my next cycle.. I wanted to try and recomp by running test, eq, and primo (also with a tbol kickstart again)... I've chosen those mainly because they're more known for the quality rather then quantity when it comes to size. I was just wondering what your guys' thoughts would be on those, and if you like them what's a proper pct for the cycle?? Thanks again, I appreciate everything in advance!!
Oh! And Merry Christmas everyone!! Happy gainzz

 

[buen]

"I'm currently on my first cycle of just testosterone, wich I had kickstarted with 50 mg of tbol for the first 4 weeks"

LOL...this is NOT a testosterone only cycle...it's a two compound cycle...what..you think 4 weeks of Tbol somehow doesn't count?

 

[tehaner222]

"I'm currently on my first cycle of just testosterone, wich I had kickstarted with 50 mg of tbol for the first 4 weeks"

LOL...this is NOT a testosterone only cycle...it's a two compound cycle...what..you think 4 weeks of Tbol somehow doesn't count?

Naw man tbol don't count.... Lmao im just messin with ya. I didnt mean to put the word "just" in there. I honestly didnt realize I put it in there till you pointed it out. I apologize.

 

[tmollerup]

Hi Dylan, sorry omitted a bunch of stuff, not trying to waste your time.
I am a current firefighter (oldest person hired by Phoenix Arizona Fire Dept) 13 years ago at age 45---also retired Pro Soccer Player Current Age 59 6' currently 240# 10% body fat
I train 2 days on 1 day off I have won several heavyweight bodybuilding shows including taking 4th in the Masters Nationals 2 years ago (didn't start competing until I turned 50) weight on stage averaged between 210-215 I compete not only in Masters classes but I have won several Open Heavyweight classes
Cycle History- Varied but I have always used Test as my base (500mg) week then added either Deca (400mg) or EQ (500mg) I also used AI--Arimedex or Proviron Program length would be 12 weeks on & 12 weeks off during off season. For shows prep first 8 weeks would be Test-E 500mg Eq. (500mg)-- last 4 weeks of show prep would add Masteron 500mg a week I would also add Anavar 30mg prior to training.
I have stayed pretty consistent with programs over the last few years. Currently on Trt 250mg Test C Brought my test levels from 278 to 1100 I have not done a cycle in apx 6 months
Cardio would be first thing in the morning after waking on empty stomach 30-40 minutes I would start with 3 days then progress from there.
My goal would be to compete in the Masters Nationals again in 2019 at 60yo I am taking this 2018 summer off to try and put on apx 15 more quality pounds to try and get close to Heavyweight at 225 on stage
Diet-I have always stuck to 1 gram of protein per pound of body weight and 1-1/2 to 2 grams of Carbs per pound of body weight. All clean food pretty much all year round Chicken,fish,lean steak, eggs brown rice, white rice, sweet potato, oats, pasta etc.
I am very dedicated to my health and to this sport. I would love your help
my email is [email protected]
Thanks again
Tom

 

[DylanGemelli]

I'm sorry man. I hadn't given you any stats yet because I was waiting to see if you're willing to work with me first. But I'm 27/5"11/210 lbs/13-15% body fat. And I would like to compete in the classic physique division. I've been training naturally for seven years (started out at 148 ) and I'm currently on my first cycle of just testosterone, wich I had kickstarted with 50 mg of tbol for the first 4 weeks. With this cycle I tapered up to 500 mg per week and plan to taper down to 250. My pct for this cycle is going to be..
Clomid- 50/50/25/25
Nolva. - 40/40/20/20
Arom. - 12.5 mg ed
MK. - 25 mg ed
GW. -20 mg ed

As for my next cycle.. I wanted to try and recomp by running test, eq, and primo (also with a tbol kickstart again)... I've chosen those mainly because they're more known for the quality rather then quantity when it comes to size. I was just wondering what your guys' thoughts would be on those, and if you like them what's a proper pct for the cycle?? Thanks again, I appreciate everything in advance!!
Oh! And Merry Christmas everyone!! Happy gainzz 

1-16 test cyp 350 mg week
1-16 primo 600 mg week
1-16 eq 600 mg week
1-18 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-6 tbol 60 mg day
1-6 dga organ st https://www.dganutrition.com/product/organ-st/
15-18 dga post ct https://www.dganutrition.com/product/post-ct/

pct 19-24

when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…Organ ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.





clomid 50/50/50/25//25/25
nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/cycle-support/organ-st
mk-2866 25 mg day (ONLY 4 WEEKS)
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[tehaner222]

"I'm currently on my first cycle of just testosterone, wich I had kickstarted with 50 mg of tbol for the first 4 weeks"

LOL...this is NOT a testosterone only cycle...it's a two compound cycle...what..you think 4 weeks of Tbol somehow doesn't count?

1-16 test cyp 350 mg week
1-16 primo 600 mg week
1-16 eq 600 mg week
1-18 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-6 tbol 60 mg day
1-6 dga organ st https://www.dganutrition.com/product/organ-st/
15-18 dga post ct https://www.dganutrition.com/product/post-ct/

pct 19-24

when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…Organ ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.





clomid 50/50/50/25//25/25
nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/cycle-support/organ-st
mk-2866 25 mg day (ONLY 4 WEEKS)
gw-501516 20 mg day

Thanks a lot my man I appreciate it. And yeah I'll definitely be running gw and mk with the pct aswell (as i stated before). One more question.. Do you think that HCG is necessary for a pct??

 

[tehaner222]

"I'm currently on my first cycle of just testosterone, wich I had kickstarted with 50 mg of tbol for the first 4 weeks"

LOL...this is NOT a testosterone only cycle...it's a two compound cycle...what..you think 4 weeks of Tbol somehow doesn't count?

1-16 test cyp 350 mg week
1-16 primo 600 mg week
1-16 eq 600 mg week
1-18 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-6 tbol 60 mg day
1-6 dga organ st https://www.dganutrition.com/product/organ-st/
15-18 dga post ct https://www.dganutrition.com/product/post-ct/

pct 19-24

when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…Organ ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.





clomid 50/50/50/25//25/25
nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/cycle-support/organ-st
mk-2866 25 mg day (ONLY 4 WEEKS)
gw-501516 20 mg day

Thanks Dylan, I appreciate it so much! Another question for you. I remember you mentioning HCG in some of your PCT videos. Do you think that it's necessary for every PCT? Or only when you run certain compounds and certain amounts?

 

[DylanGemelli]

Thanks a lot my man I appreciate it. And yeah I'll definitely be running gw and mk with the pct aswell (as i stated before). One more question.. Do you think that HCG is necessary for a pct??

dude, NO, FUCK NO... hcg is the worst thing you could EVER run in pct... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKt1TEcqT3Y&t=56s

 

[RickRock]

Thanks Dylan, I appreciate it so much! Another question for you. I remember you mentioning HCG in some of your PCT videos. Do you think that it's necessary for every PCT? Or only when you run certain compounds and certain amounts?

HCG is never ever ran in pct. it's ran before pct the last couple weeks on cycle and while esters clear. However HCG has its own share of bad side effects, and there is a much better alternative to HCG with Post CT. https://www.dganutrition.com/post-ct

 

[DylanGemelli]

please make sure you watch the video...

so, when you use testosterone, you are clearly adding large amounts of it into your body which causes you to eventually be suppressed when you stop using it because your body forgets how to produce it on its own... hence, the need for pct... so, what hcg does is MIMIC your lh and fsh, just like taking testosterone, mimics testosterone production which eventually leads to suppression, correct... so when you mimic lh and fsh, what happens when you stop using it?? im sure you can put two and two together... the reason you use hcg is to get your lh and fsh STIMULATED before pct, so they are not completely bottomed out because when you use test, they are non existent... just like when you run an oral without test... when you go into pct, your test is bottomed out.... when you go into pct using test, AT LEAST its much higher making recovery easier as you reteach your body to produce on its own... so if you use hcg BEFORE pct, then it gives that boost while your body learns how to produce on its own... HOWEVER, if you run hcg IN PCT or after, you end up suppressing yourself because you are just mimicking, not helping to jumpstart anything like nolva and clomid do for your natural testosterone production... NOT TO MENTION, hcg ALSO increases estrogen... so, i just want you to FULLY understand so you dont think its just someone talking and blowing smoke... this is fact... its easy to understand when you see it written down…