Anavar or Winstrol?

[jaharris1701]

I'm 8 weeks in on a test/deca cycle and was thinking of adding either Winstrol or Anavar as a finisher to harden an polish a bit, also add some vascularity,
I had read a thread Dylan posted back in 2013 about his opinion on winstrol and how he loved it over anavar,
I've read about drying of joints on Winstrol but have also heard about benefits when running with Test
Your opinions?
I've seen suggested dosage of 40-80mg on Anavar and 50mg Winstrol, also Winstrol is cheaper

 

[cmb5017]

I'm 8 weeks in on a test/deca cycle and was thinking of adding either Winstrol or Anavar as a finisher to harden an polish a bit, also add some vascularity,
I had read a thread Dylan posted back in 2013 about his opinion on winstrol and how he loved it over anavar,
I've read about drying of joints on Winstrol but have also heard about benefits when running with Test
Your opinions?
I've seen suggested dosage of 40-80mg on Anavar and 50mg Winstrol, also Winstrol is cheaper

Winny is probably the best for a finisher. Deca will still be in ur system long after ur cycle ends and possibly keep the joints ok while ur on it. Also there's a sarm u can run that can help against that. On top of that winny is designed to specifically be a finisher. .but mainly for competition (keep that in mind) its also been know to be effective at 25 mg's. So if it were me id try the winny at low dose first and see how u like it.

 

[RickRock]

Re: RE: Anavar or Winstrol?

I'm 8 weeks in on a test/deca cycle and was thinking of adding either Winstrol or Anavar as a finisher to harden an polish a bit, also add some vascularity,
I had read a thread Dylan posted back in 2013 about his opinion on winstrol and how he loved it over anavar,
I've read about drying of joints on Winstrol but have also heard about benefits when running with Test
Your opinions?
I've seen suggested dosage of 40-80mg on Anavar and 50mg Winstrol, also Winstrol is cheaper

In my honest opinion, Winstrol blows Anavar put of the water in every regard as a finisher. I would go with that. As long as you are running test with it and don't dose your AI too high, you shouldn't dry out your joints. I've never had a problem with it. Dose it at 50mg ED. If you want increased hardness and vascularity I would consider adding S4 at 50mg ED as well

 

[jaharris1701]

Thank you guys !! much appreciated !!
I considered adding a SARM, the S4 actually but had heard it can affect your vision and possibly add a yellowish cast,, I'm HEAVILY into photography and my color perception is vital to me so anything that affects my eyes I think I'd stay away from
I think I will give the Winny a try then !!
Thanks again
Jim

 

[RickRock]

Re: RE: Re: Anavar or Winstrol?

Thank you guys !! much appreciated !!
I considered adding a SARM, the S4 actually but had heard it can affect your vision and possibly add a yellowish cast,, I'm HEAVILY into photography and my color perception is vital to me so anything that affects my eyes I think I'd stay away from
I think I will give the Winny a try then !!
Thanks again
Jim

No problem at all man! S4 sides are dise dependant, individual specific, and easily alleviated and controlled if you use the right protocol. Though I do understand your concern. If you need anything else just let me know.

 

[DylanGemelli]

I'm 8 weeks in on a test/deca cycle and was thinking of adding either Winstrol or Anavar as a finisher to harden an polish a bit, also add some vascularity,
I had read a thread Dylan posted back in 2013 about his opinion on winstrol and how he loved it over anavar,
I've read about drying of joints on Winstrol but have also heard about benefits when running with Test
Your opinions?
I've seen suggested dosage of 40-80mg on Anavar and 50mg Winstrol, also Winstrol is cheaper

Hands down, you want to go with winstrol over anavar bro... it is far more powerful and effective and provides far more pronounced hardening and polishing, not to mention it adds more lean size, more vascularity etc... yes, it comes with more sides but this can be controlled... you obviously need cycle support from the toxicity you will endure and the joint pain is possible... to combat the joint pain, you want to add mk2866 and this will help alleviate this on top of the numerous other benefits.. i would also HIGHLY consider adding gw-501516 to this because it will not only enhance your cycle to the highest extent but also clean up your deca gains etc. and allow you to sustain and keep far more... do you have your pct set up as well?

 

[jaharris1701]

I'm 8 weeks in on a test/deca cycle and was thinking of adding either Winstrol or Anavar as a finisher to harden an polish a bit, also add some vascularity,
I had read a thread Dylan posted back in 2013 about his opinion on winstrol and how he loved it over anavar,
I've read about drying of joints on Winstrol but have also heard about benefits when running with Test
Your opinions?
I've seen suggested dosage of 40-80mg on Anavar and 50mg Winstrol, also Winstrol is cheaper

Hands down, you want to go with winstrol over anavar bro... it is far more powerful and effective and provides far more pronounced hardening and polishing, not to mention it adds more lean size, more vascularity etc... yes, it comes with more sides but this can be controlled... you obviously need cycle support from the toxicity you will endure and the joint pain is possible... to combat the joint pain, you want to add mk2866 and this will help alleviate this on top of the numerous other benefits.. i would also HIGHLY consider adding gw-501516 to this because it will not only enhance your cycle to the highest extent but also clean up your deca gains etc. and allow you to sustain and keep far more... do you have your pct set up as well?

Thank you Dylan,, much appreciated !! I will look into those sarms you recommended !!
as for PCT, I'm 57 yrs old and "cruise and blast" so after this cycle I was considering doing a cruise that I picked up in your "cruise and blast" thread here , was thinking of trying test/tren both at 150mg, I also think the tren will help keep the muscle hard, I have no experience with tren so it will be interesting to see how I respond to it, hopefully no insomnia

 

[DylanGemelli]

I'm 8 weeks in on a test/deca cycle and was thinking of adding either Winstrol or Anavar as a finisher to harden an polish a bit, also add some vascularity,
I had read a thread Dylan posted back in 2013 about his opinion on winstrol and how he loved it over anavar,
I've read about drying of joints on Winstrol but have also heard about benefits when running with Test
Your opinions?
I've seen suggested dosage of 40-80mg on Anavar and 50mg Winstrol, also Winstrol is cheaper

Hands down, you want to go with winstrol over anavar bro... it is far more powerful and effective and provides far more pronounced hardening and polishing, not to mention it adds more lean size, more vascularity etc... yes, it comes with more sides but this can be controlled... you obviously need cycle support from the toxicity you will endure and the joint pain is possible... to combat the joint pain, you want to add mk2866 and this will help alleviate this on top of the numerous other benefits.. i would also HIGHLY consider adding gw-501516 to this because it will not only enhance your cycle to the highest extent but also clean up your deca gains etc. and allow you to sustain and keep far more... do you have your pct set up as well?

Thank you Dylan,, much appreciated !! I will look into those sarms you recommended !!
as for PCT, I'm 57 yrs old and "cruise and blast" so after this cycle I was considering doing a cruise that I picked up in your "cruise and blast" thread here , was thinking of trying test/tren both at 150mg, I also think the tren will help keep the muscle hard, I have no experience with tren so it will be interesting to see how I respond to it, hopefully no insomnia

well then no pct required brother!

if you have never used tren before then i would not jump into a blast and cruise with it right away... run my protocol of proviron, test and the sarms super stack while you cruise, run tren on your next blast and see how you respond and then consider using it for trt but don't just start with it in that manner bro...

 

[jaharris1701]

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[jaharris1701]

I'm 8 weeks in on a test/deca cycle and was thinking of adding either Winstrol or Anavar as a finisher to harden an polish a bit, also add some vascularity,
I had read a thread Dylan posted back in 2013 about his opinion on winstrol and how he loved it over anavar,
I've read about drying of joints on Winstrol but have also heard about benefits when running with Test
Your opinions?
I've seen suggested dosage of 40-80mg on Anavar and 50mg Winstrol, also Winstrol is cheaper

well then no pct required brother!

if you have never used tren before then i would not jump into a blast and cruise with it right away... run my protocol of proviron, test and the sarms super stack while you cruise, run tren on your next blast and see how you respond and then consider using it for trt but don't just start with it in that manner bro...

I appreciate your advice Dylan !! I respect your knowledge and advice, I've learned a LOT from your videos, always very well presented and informational !! there's SO much bad information out there these days so you are doing a great service by putting out quality info and advice, there's probably MORE youngsters using steroids these days then ever before so your videos are helping more people then you probably realize,, keep up the good work !!
you know after doing some research on the GW, it sounds pretty awesome !! is pure essence going to run any specials in September ??

 

[DylanGemelli]

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well then no pct required brother!

if you have never used tren before then i would not jump into a blast and cruise with it right away... run my protocol of proviron, test and the sarms super stack while you cruise, run tren on your next blast and see how you respond and then consider using it for trt but don't just start with it in that manner bro...[/quote]
I appreciate your advice Dylan !! I respect your knowledge and advice, I've learned a LOT from your videos, always very well presented and informational !! there's SO much bad information out there these days so you are doing a great thing by putting out quality info and advice, there's probably MORE youngsters using steroids these days then ever before so your videos are helping more people then you probably realize,, keep up the good work !!
you know after doing some research on the GW, it sounds pretty awesome !! is pure essence going to run any specials in September ?? [/quote]


i really appreciate that bro... i try to constantly provide the very best info possible for everyone...

you will LOVE gw and all sarms in general... im sure there will be some sort of promo this month... i am waiting to hear myself but if we are following trends then its very likely!

 

[jaharris1701]

Thanks again Dylan,,
I guess why the cruise of test/tren both at 150mg appealed to me was because I thought trying tren at a lower dose would allow me to see if I like it or not, I've seen and heard lots of varying stories about mind fucks, insomnia, tren cough and so forth,,
I know its anabolic rating is quite high so I would think even at 150mg I would get/see benefit

 

[DylanGemelli]

Thanks again Dylan,,
I guess why the cruise of test/tren both at 150mg appealed to me was because I thought trying tren at a lower dose would allow me to see if I like it or not, I've seen and heard lots of varying stories about mind fucks, insomnia, tren cough and so forth,,
I know its anabolic rating is quite high so I would think even at 150mg I would get/see benefit

yes you can see results at that dose bro but i would not have my first use with tren being with trt implementation bro

 

[JackSteel]

50mg winstrol is a common sweet spot but don't think you can't get results with less. I kinda like to start around 30mg a day and work my way up to 50.


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[JackSteel]

Thanks again Dylan,,
I guess why the cruise of test/tren both at 150mg appealed to me was because I thought trying tren at a lower dose would allow me to see if I like it or not, I've seen and heard lots of varying stories about mind fucks, insomnia, tren cough and so forth,,
I know its anabolic rating is quite high so I would think even at 150mg I would get/see benefit

That IS a good way to test out tren but NOT for a first cycle. Id do that 3rd cycle at soonest. But you're correct, low doses of tren can do surprising things.


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[RickRock]

Re: RE: Re: Anavar or Winstrol?

Thanks again Dylan,,
I guess why the cruise of test/tren both at 150mg appealed to me was because I thought trying tren at a lower dose would allow me to see if I like it or not, I've seen and heard lots of varying stories about mind fucks, insomnia, tren cough and so forth,,
I know its anabolic rating is quite high so I would think even at 150mg I would get/see benefit

150mg of Tren is not a good way to asess it, considering you probably won't experience any sides at that dose, compared to blasting it at a normal 400mg or more per week where the sides definitely come into play. I wouldn't recommend cruising with it just yet. That's more along the lines of an advanced cruise, and you aren't quite there yet. I would just cruise with Test for now

 

[jaharris1701]

Thanks again Dylan,,
I guess why the cruise of test/tren both at 150mg appealed to me was because I thought trying tren at a lower dose would allow me to see if I like it or not, I've seen and heard lots of varying stories about mind fucks, insomnia, tren cough and so forth,,
I know its anabolic rating is quite high so I would think even at 150mg I would get/see benefit

That IS a good way to test out tren but NOT for a first cycle. Id do that 3rd cycle at soonest. But you're correct, low doses of tren can do surprising things.


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Thanks my friend,,, I've been juicing for a while,, by no means is this my first cycle,, just never tried Tren before as for the winny,, I might just try 20mg and see how that goes

 

[JackSteel]

Thanks again Dylan,,
I guess why the cruise of test/tren both at 150mg appealed to me was because I thought trying tren at a lower dose would allow me to see if I like it or not, I've seen and heard lots of varying stories about mind fucks, insomnia, tren cough and so forth,,
I know its anabolic rating is quite high so I would think even at 150mg I would get/see benefit

That IS a good way to test out tren but NOT for a first cycle. Id do that 3rd cycle at soonest. But you're correct, low doses of tren can do surprising things.


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Thanks my friend,,, I've been juicing for a while,, by no means is this my first cycle,, just never tried Tren before as for the winny,, I might just try 20mg and see how that goes

Ooohhhh! Oh my bad I don't know what put that in my head. Then totally I would. 150 is plenty to test the waters once it peaks. Hell, I just bumped from 50mg ew to 100mg just last week and I'm getting the hot flashes and only slightly more sweating. I know that because I never sweat so much that sweat drips down my arms from my pits and I've had that happen a couple times. I bet I could feel 25mg a week if I tried it lol I'm so sensitive to it.


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[DylanGemelli]

50mg winstrol is a common sweet spot but don't think you can't get results with less. I kinda like to start around 30mg a day and work my way up to 50.


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this is very true... i did an experiment with winstrol at 25 mg per day and i saw big results.. of course i see more at 50 but trust me when i tell you, and i will say my body just responds to winstrol like i have not encountered with others, but 25 mg brought me some very nice results and completely lessened the side effects to basically non existent... one thing about me and orals at higher doses is that by week 5 or 6 i can see my liver just does not agree because i feel the lethargy and thats a direct correlation with too much liver strain and not process it etc... the levels of toxicity cause this... even with protection