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Test c, var and Winny

costatoyz

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Hey guys, after doing alot of homework, research and bugging the heck out of some of you, I have finally decided what to run on my first cycle. My goals are to recomp and my stats are as followed:

28
170
13.5% bf
8 yrs training
Diet on check


1-12 test c 500mg/wk (split doses)
1-14 aromasin 15mg eod
1-14 cel assist
1-4 anavar 60mg/ed (kickstart cycle)
8-14 Winny 30mg/ed

Pct
15-18

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Aromasin 15mg/eod
Cycle assist
Mk-2866 25mg/ed
Gw-501516 20mg/ed


Please feel free to critique my plan or make some recommendations. I would like to hear some input before starting. Thanks for all your help gents.
 
costatoyz said:
Hey guys, after doing alot of homework, research and bugging the heck out of some of you, I have finally decided what to run on my first cycle. My goals are to recomp and my stats are as followed:

28
170
13.5% bf
8 yrs training
Diet on check


1-12 test c 500mg/wk (split doses)
1-14 aromasin 15mg eod
1-14 cel assist
1-4 anavar 60mg/ed (kickstart cycle)
8-14 Winny 30mg/ed

Pct
15-18

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Aromasin 15mg/eod
Cycle assist
Mk-2866 25mg/ed
Gw-501516 20mg/ed


Please feel free to critique my plan or make some recommendations. I would like to hear some input before starting. Thanks for all your help gents.

I can tell by the aromasin dose u went with phurious ;)
 
costatoyz said:
Hey guys, after doing alot of homework, research and bugging the heck out of some of you, I have finally decided what to run on my first cycle. My goals are to recomp and my stats are as followed:

28
170
13.5% bf
8 yrs training
Diet on check


1-12 test c 500mg/wk (split doses)
1-14 aromasin 15mg eod
1-14 cel assist
1-4 anavar 60mg/ed (kickstart cycle)
8-14 Winny 30mg/ed

Pct
15-18

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Aromasin 15mg/eod
Cycle assist
Mk-2866 25mg/ed
Gw-501516 20mg/ed


Please feel free to critique my plan or make some recommendations. I would like to hear some input before starting. Thanks for all your help gents.

Looks pretty decent my man. I personally would choose Tbol to kickstart over Anavar at 60mg per day for the first 4 weeks. The Winstrol finisher I would run at 50mg ED

I also think for your goals it would be ideal to add in GW to,the cycle at 20mg per day and S4 at 50mg per day as well.

All else looks great
 
cmb5017 said:
costatoyz said:
Hey guys, after doing alot of homework, research and bugging the heck out of some of you, I have finally decided what to run on my first cycle. My goals are to recomp and my stats are as followed:

28
170
13.5% bf
8 yrs training
Diet on check


1-12 test c 500mg/wk (split doses)
1-14 aromasin 15mg eod
1-14 cel assist
1-4 anavar 60mg/ed (kickstart cycle)
8-14 Winny 30mg/ed

Pct
15-18

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Aromasin 15mg/eod
Cycle assist
Mk-2866 25mg/ed
Gw-501516 20mg/ed


Please feel free to critique my plan or make some recommendations. I would like to hear some input before starting. Thanks for all your help gents.

I can tell by the aromasin dose u went with phurious ;)


:lol: yesssir. I plan to try the gear from all sponsors here on AR.
 
RickRock said:
costatoyz said:
Hey guys, after doing alot of homework, research and bugging the heck out of some of you, I have finally decided what to run on my first cycle. My goals are to recomp and my stats are as followed:

28
170
13.5% bf
8 yrs training
Diet on check


1-12 test c 500mg/wk (split doses)
1-14 aromasin 15mg eod
1-14 cel assist
1-4 anavar 60mg/ed (kickstart cycle)
8-14 Winny 30mg/ed

Pct
15-18

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Aromasin 15mg/eod
Cycle assist
Mk-2866 25mg/ed
Gw-501516 20mg/ed


Please feel free to critique my plan or make some recommendations. I would like to hear some input before starting. Thanks for all your help gents.

Looks pretty decent my man. I personally would choose Tbol to kickstart over Anavar at 60mg per day for the first 4 weeks. The Winstrol finisher I would run at 50mg ED

I also think for your goals it would be ideal to add in GW to,the cycle at 20mg per day and S4 at 50mg per day as well.

All else looks great


Hey Rick, why would you personally choose tbol? Ive heard tbol over var but I really want to shed just a little belly fat and im not sure if tbol can be helpful in that regard. How long does it take to kick in and feel tbol?

Also, can I start the gw and s4 from week 1-14? And then gw again on 15-18 for pct? Can gw be ran that long? I'm really considering this.
 
cmb5017 said:
costatoyz said:
Hey guys, after doing alot of homework, research and bugging the heck out of some of you, I have finally decided what to run on my first cycle. My goals are to recomp and my stats are as followed:

28
170
13.5% bf
8 yrs training
Diet on check


1-12 test c 500mg/wk (split doses)
1-14 aromasin 15mg eod
1-14 cel assist
1-4 anavar 60mg/ed (kickstart cycle)
8-14 Winny 30mg/ed

Pct
15-18

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Aromasin 15mg/eod
Cycle assist
Mk-2866 25mg/ed
Gw-501516 20mg/ed


Please feel free to critique my plan or make some recommendations. I would like to hear some input before starting. Thanks for all your help gents.

I can tell by the aromasin dose u went with phurious ;)

Lol. Exactly what i thouht to
 
Re: RE: Re: Test c, var and Winny

costatoyz said:
RickRock said:
costatoyz said:
Hey guys, after doing alot of homework, research and bugging the heck out of some of you, I have finally decided what to run on my first cycle. My goals are to recomp and my stats are as followed:

28
170
13.5% bf
8 yrs training
Diet on check


1-12 test c 500mg/wk (split doses)
1-14 aromasin 15mg eod
1-14 cel assist
1-4 anavar 60mg/ed (kickstart cycle)
8-14 Winny 30mg/ed

Pct
15-18

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Aromasin 15mg/eod
Cycle assist
Mk-2866 25mg/ed
Gw-501516 20mg/ed


Please feel free to critique my plan or make some recommendations. I would like to hear some input before starting. Thanks for all your help gents.

Looks pretty decent my man. I personally would choose Tbol to kickstart over Anavar at 60mg per day for the first 4 weeks. The Winstrol finisher I would run at 50mg ED

I also think for your goals it would be ideal to add in GW to,the cycle at 20mg per day and S4 at 50mg per day as well.

All else looks great


Hey Rick, why would you personally choose tbol? Ive heard tbol over var but I really want to shed just a little belly fat and im not sure if tbol can be helpful in that regard. How long does it take to kick in and feel tbol?

Also, can I start the gw and s4 from week 1-14? And then gw again on 15-18 for pct? Can gw be ran that long? I'm really considering this.
The first thing you have to realize is that steroids are not fat burners, despite anavar getting the reputation as one. I would choose Tbol because in my opinion it provides a better kickstart than anavar which is pretty weak. Especially only running them 4 weeks

I would start the GW on week 5 as soon as you drop the Tbol which will give you 14 good weeks on it including the PCT. That's the best way to run the GW to keep from desensitizing to it
 
Re: RE: Re: Test c, var and Winny

RickRock said:
costatoyz said:
RickRock said:
costatoyz said:
Hey guys, after doing alot of homework, research and bugging the heck out of some of you, I have finally decided what to run on my first cycle. My goals are to recomp and my stats are as followed:

28
170
13.5% bf
8 yrs training
Diet on check


1-12 test c 500mg/wk (split doses)
1-14 aromasin 15mg eod
1-14 cel assist
1-4 anavar 60mg/ed (kickstart cycle)
8-14 Winny 30mg/ed

Pct
15-18

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Aromasin 15mg/eod
Cycle assist
Mk-2866 25mg/ed
Gw-501516 20mg/ed


Please feel free to critique my plan or make some recommendations. I would like to hear some input before starting. Thanks for all your help gents.

Looks pretty decent my man. I personally would choose Tbol to kickstart over Anavar at 60mg per day for the first 4 weeks. The Winstrol finisher I would run at 50mg ED

I also think for your goals it would be ideal to add in GW to,the cycle at 20mg per day and S4 at 50mg per day as well.

All else looks great


Hey Rick, why would you personally choose tbol? Ive heard tbol over var but I really want to shed just a little belly fat and im not sure if tbol can be helpful in that regard. How long does it take to kick in and feel tbol?

Also, can I start the gw and s4 from week 1-14? And then gw again on 15-18 for pct? Can gw be ran that long? I'm really considering this.
The first thing you have to realize is that steroids are not fat burners, despite anavar getting the reputation as one. I would choose Tbol because in my opinion it provides a better kickstart than anavar which is pretty weak. Especially only running them 4 weeks

I would start the GW on week 5 as soon as you drop the Tbol which will give you 14 good weeks on it including the PCT. That's the best way to run the GW to keep from desensitizing to it

Yea, I know var is not a fat burner. I just need to shed a little bit. Im throwing in gw and s4 like you mentioned. Thanks alot Rick!
 
Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Test c, var and Winny

costatoyz said:
RickRock said:
costatoyz said:
"RickRock" said:
"costatoyz" said:
Hey guys, after doing alot of homework, research and bugging the heck out of some of you, I have finally decided what to run on my first cycle. My goals are to recomp and my stats are as followed:

28
170
13.5% bf
8 yrs training
Diet on check


1-12 test c 500mg/wk (split doses)
1-14 aromasin 15mg eod
1-14 cel assist
1-4 anavar 60mg/ed (kickstart cycle)
8-14 Winny 30mg/ed

Pct
15-18

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Aromasin 15mg/eod
Cycle assist
Mk-2866 25mg/ed
Gw-501516 20mg/ed


Please feel free to critique my plan or make some recommendations. I would like to hear some input before starting. Thanks for all your help gents.

Looks pretty decent my man. I personally would choose Tbol to kickstart over Anavar at 60mg per day for the first 4 weeks. The Winstrol finisher I would run at 50mg ED

I also think for your goals it would be ideal to add in GW to,the cycle at 20mg per day and S4 at 50mg per day as well.

All else looks great


Hey Rick, why would you personally choose tbol? Ive heard tbol over var but I really want to shed just a little belly fat and im not sure if tbol can be helpful in that regard. How long does it take to kick in and feel tbol?

Also, can I start the gw and s4 from week 1-14? And then gw again on 15-18 for pct? Can gw be ran that long? I'm really considering this.
The first thing you have to realize is that steroids are not fat burners, despite anavar getting the reputation as one. I would choose Tbol because in my opinion it provides a better kickstart than anavar which is pretty weak. Especially only running them 4 weeks

I would start the GW on week 5 as soon as you drop the Tbol which will give you 14 good weeks on it including the PCT. That's the best way to run the GW to keep from desensitizing to it

Yea, I know var is not a fat burner. I just need to shed a little bit. Im throwing in gw and s4 like you mentioned. Thanks alot Rick!
No problem at all brother. Anavar can still work fine. I just personally would pick Tbol over it. If you have any other questions, just let me know!
 
Nice set up and stats (including time training)

I would drop BOTY orals and maybe replace T-bol @ the beginning as Rick stated. Maybe.

I'd also drop to a max of 400 mg's/week of test.
 
EZ_E said:
Nice set up and stats (including time training)

I would drop BOTY orals and maybe replace T-bol @ the beginning as Rick stated. Maybe.

I'd also drop to a max of 400 mg's/week of test.

Thanks for the advice EZ_E. I think I'm going with t bol after all. Why would you recommend 400mgs of test vs 500? Just wondering...
 
Hey gents, can lipid stabil be taken along with cycle assist throughout the entire cycle? And possibly throw in joint support supp? Or would that be too liver toxic, considering my cycle??
 
hey brother... you are saying that you want to recomp but are concerned with dropping body fat as well.. recomp is all about adding size and dropping body fat... trust me, tbol is the portion of the cycle where you add the size that is nice and dry... 10-15 lbs with this if done properly and very clean... THEN you have added in gw and s4 for muscle hardening and fat melting to really drop the body fat and maintain and add more lean muscle.. you finish with winstrol, too harden and just shred... its perfect... i have the entire layout for you... you run proviron the entire time to add to the effect...

1-12 test cyp 350-500 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-14 proviron 50 mg day
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-6 tbol 60 mg day
1-6 cycle assist
9-14 winstrol 50 mg day
9-14 cycle assist
11-14 hcg 1000 ius week

pct 15-18

clomid 50/50/25/25

nolva 40/20/20/20

aromasin 12.5 mg eod

cycle assist

mk-2866 25 mg day

gw-501516 20 mg day
 
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