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jbuchman

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44yo on tet for 5 years training for 28 years. Want a kick. D0c agreed to allow me to use 400mg/week of test cyp for 12 weeks and then go back to my usual 200. Been reading about SARMs. Would there be any benefit of including say lgd 4033 with this cycle. Or if there is something better let me know. Thanks
 
Sarms and trt are like peanut butter and jelly... They go together perfect.... I can give you a trt layout but i need to know your goals
 
44yo on tet for 5 years training for 28 years. Want a kick. D0c agreed to allow me to use 400mg/week of test cyp for 12 weeks and then go back to my usual 200. Been reading about SARMs. Would there be any benefit of including say lgd 4033 with this cycle. Or if there is something better let me know. Thanks
Damn man, you have a really awesome doc! Lol

Sarms to add some size with your increased test dose woukd go perfect with them. I'd run them the whole 12 weeks and this is what I'd run for your goals

1-12 LGD 10mg per day
1-12 RAD14O 20mg per day
1-12 S4 50mg per day
1-12 GW 20mg per day

This is the ultra recomp stack from pure essence which you can find on their site as a whole 12 week stack with everything I listed

Also there's a sweet promo going this month. Use DEC25 for 25% off at www.pureessenceresearch.com
 
6' 218 12%bf. At my best(about 12 years ego) i was 235 at about 10-12%.
Would like to get there again

here you go... run this...

1-16 test cyp 150 mg week
1-16 aromasin 12.5 mg every 3 days
1-12 rad140 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 sr9009 30 mg day... 5 mg split doses 2-3 hours apart
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 mk-2866 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
 
here you go... run this...

1-16 test cyp 150 mg week
1-16 aromasin 12.5 mg every 3 days
1-12 rad140 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 sr9009 30 mg day... 5 mg split doses 2-3 hours apart
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 mk-2866 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
What pct will be good after the cycle?

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here you go... run this...

1-16 test cyp 150 mg week
1-16 aromasin 12.5 mg every 3 days
1-12 rad140 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 sr9009 30 mg day... 5 mg split doses 2-3 hours apart
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 mk-2866 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
Dylan why one test 150 when his Dr gave him the okay for 400? I do notice you suggest people run test lower which I have taken that advice and I like it. Just want to know the reasoning?

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Dylan why one test 150 when his Dr gave him the okay for 400? I do notice you suggest people run test lower which I have taken that advice and I like it. Just want to know the reasoning?

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400 is NOT even close to a trt dose... Doctors are often WAY off with their diagnosis in this field... High test is often not necessary whatsoever... Its the base of a cycle but its support lets other compounds shine... Often times higher doses just lead to higher side effects without added results... Some are lucky enough to not get sides with higher test doses but its more times than not too much
 
He is on TRT why does he need a PCT?

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It was somebody else that asks about pct. Not the original poster, that is on trt. Obviously if you are on trt, no pct would be required
 
Can be ok to change the test for primovolan in this cycle?

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Test needs to be the base of any AAS cycle. I wouldn't recommend running anything in place of test. Along with test is fine and another story
 
Dylan, thanks for the info but a bit confused. 150/week of test? My regular trt is 200/week and thats just enough to keep my levels at 750-900. i had to beg my doc to allow 400 for 12 weeks (wanted 600 but he said no way). Since some sarms are a bit supressive couldnt my levels drop really low at 150/week?
I was actually afraid that 400/week would not be enough since back in the day I used to run 500-800. Anyway, let me know what you think. Thanks
 
If 200 keeps you at that level, then keep it at 200. Also, you will not get suppressed because it is an exogenous source. While injecting test, it isn't suppressed.
But if you are blasting with the sarms, 400 is just fine.


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Dylan, thanks for the info but a bit confused. 150/week of test? My regular trt is 200/week and thats just enough to keep my levels at 750-900. i had to beg my doc to allow 400 for 12 weeks (wanted 600 but he said no way). Since some sarms are a bit supressive couldnt my levels drop really low at 150/week?
I was actually afraid that 400/week would not be enough since back in the day I used to run 500-800. Anyway, let me know what you think. Thanks

you can run it at 200... thats fine man... 400 IS NOT trt... if you want to run a cycle, then run it at 400... if you want to die early, run 400 for trt... you'll probably shave 10 years off your life if you run trt at 400 mg week... a cycle is completely fine but if like i said, if you feel its worth it to run trt that high, then you have to deal with the consequences... ask rick about running trt too high... he will give you a pretty scary story...
 
Sorry Dylan I was not clear. 200 is my trt. i wanted to run a cycle dose for 12 weeks and my doc agreed to bump to 400. After 12 weeks back to 200. I would not, nor would doc allow, to run 400 indefinitely.
 
If your doc is allowing you to run 400mg for 12 weeks only then back down to 200mg, I don't see any problem whatsoever with that. That is a basic blast and cruise and will compliment the sarms stack perfectly. Just make sure that you don't run the higher dose for long periods as part of TRT. That's when problems arise. Increased RBC count, hematocrit levels, and other blood markers. It will also give you increased lipid strain as well as stress on your cardiovascular system. Over time your blood can thicken like oil....this can become problematic. As for the story dylan is talking about, I knew a guy that was a very big bodybuilder that blasted high doses of test and never lowered them. He was a huge guy, but paid the ultimate price.....he dropped dead of a massive heart attack at 46 years old. 25+ years of doing that caught up to him and he died because of it. That's why you must cruise at real TRT doses of 200mg or in that range. I also stress the importance of regular bloodwork as well as regular blood donations
 
Thanks Rick. New to this forum and appreciate the help. A hell of a story. I am required to do blood work every 3 months as part of treatment. Since i started always ran at 200. i guess maybe midlife crisis...Just want to see if i can hit my best again. After 12 weeks back to 200 no question. Thanks
 
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