that is literally one of the most depressing places i have ever seen and its such a shame because i know for a fact there's some guys over there with a lot of knowledge but generally its a bunch of guys who were banned at every other forum they have been on, and they all gather there and literally do nothing but talk shit and gossip... last time i checked, the point of a forum was to help others and provide info, not act like a woman's beauty shop and bad mouth and gossip all day... i mean, its fucking bad over there... they literally bitch and moan about EVERYTHING and EVERYONE... if you even bring something up there, everyone thinks your up to something, etc... its paranoia to the extreme and its the worst example for others to see on how a forum should work...