Lgd 4033or mk2866
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I think MK2866 will be your best bet. Across the board, it's given people a harder slightly stronger physique than LGD is known for. You could do a combination of the two but not in the proscibed doses. Depending on your body weight, 15-20mg of MK2866 and 10mg of LGD. We can't run the normal doses because of Androgen Receptor competition.
If you choose LGD alone, I would run it with something that doesn't compete with the AR receptors like SR9009 or MK-677. But be careful with 677, especially if you have no experience with it. It makes you eat. It's mechanism is based on increasing a hunger hormone in the gut. This should not be underestimated.
But this is also why ostarine is great, you can do some cardio on a bulk cycle and it not hinder you or hinder you much much less than without ostarine. Plus it's a hardener. But def. not as strong as LGD for bulking.
I have many clients who have tried LGD who want to get leaner and not been able to do it even with an amazing diet in place.
Also keep in mind with LGD you will have some recovery time. With ostarine you will have none. So you will need a light PCT with the LGD, because of slight supression that occurs. If your not willing or have the money to invest in a PCT it will make your efforts to get lean and stay lean very difficult near the end. This is why Ostarine is USUALLY the safest bet.
Oh and also, keep this in mind: The leaner we are, the bigger we look.
If you choose LGD alone, I would run it with something that doesn't compete with the AR receptors like SR9009 or MK-677. But be careful with 677, especially if you have no experience with it. It makes you eat. It's mechanism is based on increasing a hunger hormone in the gut. This should not be underestimated.
But this is also why ostarine is great, you can do some cardio on a bulk cycle and it not hinder you or hinder you much much less than without ostarine. Plus it's a hardener. But def. not as strong as LGD for bulking.
I have many clients who have tried LGD who want to get leaner and not been able to do it even with an amazing diet in place.
Also keep in mind with LGD you will have some recovery time. With ostarine you will have none. So you will need a light PCT with the LGD, because of slight supression that occurs. If your not willing or have the money to invest in a PCT it will make your efforts to get lean and stay lean very difficult near the end. This is why Ostarine is USUALLY the safest bet.
Oh and also, keep this in mind: The leaner we are, the bigger we look.
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Thanks so much I been doing alot of research about the both of them and ive seen mk 2866 use for bulking and then I look at lgd for bulking and it's alot better then mk 2866 my buddies I know used lgd for 12 weeks and it transformed him and made him look really big but Im big enough as it is rn I'm just looking to cut I appreciate the help brother
Yeah it transforms those who are already lean and can stay lean, but others it will just make them a bigger version of themselves. It's all about individual context.
I've ran a 6min mile and still had a 315lbs 3 sets of 3-4 reps on bench WITHOUT a single supplement ( I went away for a few years if you know what I mean) and I HAD to make my body function optimially on packs of fish, skim milk and oatmeal. Cardio does not kill our gains when we have a slow metabolism. We are not as catabolic as someone who has a faster metabolism. It means we don't need as many calories and we can do cardio.
Also, ALWAYS do 10min of light cardio before every workout. Increases circulation and gives our adrenals the potential to go higher and higher throughout the workout. And adrenal levels are very in line with how strongly our muscles contract. Don't eat too many carbs pre workout either. And especially stay away from sugar. Insulin from sugar or carbs oposes adrenals, which decreases muscle contraction. Most of my clients are their strongest when they haven't eaten for a couple of hours. So a little fat an hour to 90min before workout. If you do have carbs they need to be minimal. If you have a lot of carbs up the cardio to 12-15min and do some light intervals the last 5min to increase adrenals.
There are my secrets. =)
(I'm not saying follow a low carb diet. I'm saying timing is extremely important)
I've ran a 6min mile and still had a 315lbs 3 sets of 3-4 reps on bench WITHOUT a single supplement ( I went away for a few years if you know what I mean) and I HAD to make my body function optimially on packs of fish, skim milk and oatmeal. Cardio does not kill our gains when we have a slow metabolism. We are not as catabolic as someone who has a faster metabolism. It means we don't need as many calories and we can do cardio.
Also, ALWAYS do 10min of light cardio before every workout. Increases circulation and gives our adrenals the potential to go higher and higher throughout the workout. And adrenal levels are very in line with how strongly our muscles contract. Don't eat too many carbs pre workout either. And especially stay away from sugar. Insulin from sugar or carbs oposes adrenals, which decreases muscle contraction. Most of my clients are their strongest when they haven't eaten for a couple of hours. So a little fat an hour to 90min before workout. If you do have carbs they need to be minimal. If you have a lot of carbs up the cardio to 12-15min and do some light intervals the last 5min to increase adrenals.
There are my secrets. =)
(I'm not saying follow a low carb diet. I'm saying timing is extremely important)
I agree with rick I loved when I ran LGD and S4 I would say I looked juts as good if not better during a gear cycle. However LGD gives me a lil more acne then I would like so I stay away from it now.
1-12 lgd-4033 (ANABOLICUM) 10 mg per day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 (ANDARINE) 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
9-12 DGA POST CT https://www.dganutrition.com/pct/post-ct
Mini pct 13-16
clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day
1-12 S4 (ANDARINE) 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
9-12 DGA POST CT https://www.dganutrition.com/pct/post-ct
Mini pct 13-16
clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day
Yeah all that's well and fine if you're prepared to run a PCT. Since you specifically compared the TWO LGD or Ostarine, I went with the best of your suggestions. Of course you can stack up other research chems and see better results, but if your on a budget and you have to pick one of the two, go with the MK2866. But if you have the money, go with some of the other suggested stacks, but your going to have some intereference with the LGD/S4. Which is why Gemelli only suggested 10mg of LGD. That's how it has to go. Again, if you have the money to do a full stack like Gemelli suggested then go for it. If your trying to choose between LGD or Ostarine, go with the one better for fat loss and doesn't require a PCT.
And again, the suggested stacks? Have they ever delt with fat issues? If someone who was born with abs gives you a good cycle that worked great for them, I would keep in mind they have a different body type.
And again, the suggested stacks? Have they ever delt with fat issues? If someone who was born with abs gives you a good cycle that worked great for them, I would keep in mind they have a different body type.
Mk2866 absolutely positively requires a pct for anything over 4 weeks use. Ran properly for 12 weeks requires the same pct so please stop parrotingthis nonsense wherever you got it from. It's simply not even remotely true, and some of the doses you have listed are off base as well
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the only "sarms" that do not require pct" and i put in quotes because TECHNICALLY although they are grouped with sarms, they are not "actual" sarms, would be gw501516, sr9009 and or mk677... mk2866 absolutely requires pct..
