Thanks for the responses boys. I have a much better idea of what SARMS do and they do seem like the better choice in terms of being safe and healthy which is my #1 concern. However, I'm not a cheap bastard but this seems like quite a bit of money. Rick rock im not looking to start steroids I have no desire for that at all. I am looking into running some test OR trying some SARMS out. Maybe test is considered steroids but I really don't consider it to be. Would running a low dosage of test for a few months really be that bad? I'm not interested in running multiple cycles of the stuff or going at 1000mg. Like I said, I like my body. I'm more on the aesthetic side. I'm looking to tweak it here and there. I feel like either way I will eventually try SARMS out whether that being really soon or in roughly 4 to 6 months. The research on it thus far looks promising. So I guess I'm just considering which to try first for the time being. If i were to go the SARMS route, a stack of several things is probably off the table. They're all like $250. I would probably go for just one sarm. I'm just a college student working minimum wage lol. Dylan, as you suggested the S4 looks right up my alley. Your video sold me on it being not only better but ten times safer than anavar. And although I'm not looking into taking anavar, those results are similar to what I would like. Nothing drastic but a good amount of leaning out while gaining some lean muscle and strength (which is what I figured could be done with a 250mg once per week of test 3 to 4 months). However, If i were to go the S4 route, could I go a 4 month cycle or are sarm cycles only done in2 to 3 month cycles? Lastly, would I even need the pct if I just ran the S4? Thanks again guys