The Versatility of Deca Durabolin: A new video by Dylan Gemelli

[DylanGemelli]

The best part about the video isn't the actual information, but the premise behind its production. I've mentioned this to Rick before, but I have long appreciated and respected how you (Dylan), Rick, NY, 44, myself, others, etc. have all grown in knowledge & openness to previously shunned compounds. For example, years ago Dylan you were more in the NPP camp rather than Deca... Rick also slowly came around to Deca and has likely embraced why it is THE most legendary steroid of all time (along with Dianabol). Both Dylan and Rick have perhaps had their best recomps & growth due to the inclusion of Deca. 44 has echoed his love for the potency and versatility of Deca for a long while now.

Another example of intellectual growth and experimentation is if you go back to posts on other forums (and perhaps this one), Dylan mentions a general avoidance of orals due to across-the-board prevalence of side effects & greater impact of oils. We all know of your love affair with Winstrol (hahaha), but it was refreshing to see both you and NY eventually hop onto the Anadrol train & ride it into sunny horizons. Cheesy but still...

Long story short: everyone who has followed the leaders of our forums should take time to appreciate the evolving opinions & guidance which is filtered into the community. Just like politics, you needn't be beholden to opinions you made in the past: upon receiving new information & experiences, you are certainly granted if not empowered to change your mind.

I mean all of this in the most positive, glowing manner possible. Keep up the great work, as always!


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i truly appreciate your comment... one thing that i have always kept in mind is that you can never know too much and always know too little... WE ALL fall victim, at times, to have misconceptions and beliefs on things we have either never used or did not use properly and the important thing to keep in mind, regardless of how experienced or new you are, is that this is a constant learning process, no matter what... you always need to recognize that there is something new to learn, a new method, precaution, etc... i will always be of the mind set that no matter how much knowledge i may have, its not even close to enough and i will never stop working to make sure that i pass this along to everyone... when i make a mistake i own it and explain where i went wrong etc... you always need to understand you are never above anything and trust me, you will always go a million miles further in anything you do...

 

[Buggy2hot]

i truly appreciate your comment... one thing that i have always kept in mind is that you can never know too much and always know too little... WE ALL fall victim, at times, to have misconceptions and beliefs on things we have either never used or did not use properly and the important thing to keep in mind, regardless of how experienced or new you are, is that this is a constant learning process, no matter what... you always need to recognize that there is something new to learn, a new method, precaution, etc... i will always be of the mind set that no matter how much knowledge i may have, its not even close to enough and i will never stop working to make sure that i pass this along to everyone... when i make a mistake i own it and explain where i went wrong etc... you always need to understand you are never above anything and trust me, you will always go a million miles further in anything you do...

That's the thing however: you were never actually wrong about anything, and all of your informative opinions have held up over time. If anything, you've waited to learn even more about each compound before personally using it. Most of your guidance has served to solidify the safety of PED neophytes & stubborn types. When you are an experienced, if not advanced, athlete such as yourself, the norms and rules don't apply as much. You gain wisdom and knowledge which has allowed you to venture to the other side of the green pasture, THEN you can advise others via a literature/scientific viewpoint plus via experiential knowledge.


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[RickRock]

The best part about the video isn't the actual information, but the premise behind its production. I've mentioned this to Rick before, but I have long appreciated and respected how you (Dylan), Rick, NY, 44, myself, others, etc. have all grown in knowledge & openness to previously shunned compounds. For example, years ago Dylan you were more in the NPP camp rather than Deca... Rick also slowly came around to Deca and has likely embraced why it is THE most legendary steroid of all time (along with Dianabol). Both Dylan and Rick have perhaps had their best recomps & growth due to the inclusion of Deca. 44 has echoed his love for the potency and versatility of Deca for a long while now.

Another example of intellectual growth and experimentation is if you go back to posts on other forums (and perhaps this one), Dylan mentions a general avoidance of orals due to across-the-board prevalence of side effects & greater impact of oils. We all know of your love affair with Winstrol (hahaha), but it was refreshing to see both you and NY eventually hop onto the Anadrol train & ride it into sunny horizons. Cheesy but still...

Long story short: everyone who has followed the leaders of our forums should take time to appreciate the evolving opinions & guidance which is filtered into the community. Just like politics, you needn't be beholden to opinions you made in the past: upon receiving new information & experiences, you are certainly granted if not empowered to change your mind.

I mean all of this in the most positive, glowing manner possible. Keep up the great work, as always!


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You hit the nail on the head bro. We are all learning more every day, and it just goes to show that sometimes things get a bad rep, and you have to really see for yourself how things go. I absolutely love deca and I had no idea I'd ever say that about it. Its my favorite compound next to test for sure

 

[ThepoManta]

Deca is smooth as can be. It's a lot like EQ on how smooth it is. And very mild on side effcts if you control estrogen and prolactin while keeping your test and Deca at the right ratio

I heard some people have problems with libido after a Test and Deca cycle. (They said they ran caber on cycle) Is this because everyone is different or was it maybe not caber at all. Or something nandrolone related and not prolactin related?

I really would like to try 300mg Test and 250mg Deca for my second cycle. But if I don't feel like I know absolutely everything about Deca, I will just run 500mg Test and Tbol as a kickstart for my second cycle...

 

[RickRock]

I heard some people have problems with libido after a Test and Deca cycle. (They said they ran caber on cycle) Is this because everyone is different or was it maybe not caber at all. Or something nandrolone related and not prolactin related?

I really would like to try 300mg Test and 250mg Deca for my second cycle. But if I don't feel like I know absolutely everything about Deca, I will just run 500mg Test and Tbol as a kickstart for my second cycle...

Usually it's because either they didn't control prolactin or estrogen, or they didn't run enough test compared to their deca dose. You want your test higher than deca. I prefer test to deca at a 2:1 ratio

 

[DylanGemelli]

That's the thing however: you were never actually wrong about anything, and all of your informative opinions have held up over time. If anything, you've waited to learn even more about each compound before personally using it. Most of your guidance has served to solidify the safety of PED neophytes & stubborn types. When you are an experienced, if not advanced, athlete such as yourself, the norms and rules don't apply as much. You gain wisdom and knowledge which has allowed you to venture to the other side of the green pasture, THEN you can advise others via a literature/scientific viewpoint plus via experiential knowledge.


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i really appreciate that brother, i truly do... i just try to always stay humble about everything, continue to provide and learn, and just make sure that i am helping and taking care of everyone to the best of my abilities... i put everyone here first because i feel that if i have the knowledge and the voice then if i did not do that, i would be sinning... when you are given certain qualities and abilities, you should never waste them and you should always use them in the right way, which is what i always try to do

 

[ThepoManta]

Usually it's because either they didn't control prolactin or estrogen, or they didn't run enough test compared to their deca dose. You want your test higher than deca. I prefer test to deca at a 2:1 ratio

So the test would be better at 500mg per week with Deca at 250mg? Would 3ml of oil be a problem for glutes? (once a week injections) 2ml was no problem at all.

Maybe a bit of a weird question, but still haha!

 

[DylanGemelli]

So the test would be better at 500mg per week with Deca at 250mg? Would 3ml of oil be a problem for glutes? (once a week injections) 2ml was no problem at all.

Maybe a bit of a weird question, but still haha!

i keep them equal when i run them... i generally go with 350/350... rick can handle more test than a lot of guys can so hes completely fine to run it that way but many cannot do that...

 

[Buggy2hot]

Usually it's because either they didn't control prolactin or estrogen, or they didn't run enough test compared to their deca dose. You want your test higher than deca. I prefer test to deca at a 2:1 ratio

Spot on, brother. I tend to place Test at a 2:1 ratio of the sum of other compounds (excluding EQ, Primo and Trestolone).

Controlling estrogen responsibly should largely mitigate prolactin spikes.


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[Buggy2hot]

i keep them equal when i run them... i generally go with 350/350... rick can handle more test than a lot of guys can so hes completely fine to run it that way but many cannot do that...

Right as a light. One of my clients came here and read your 350/350 personal dosing and loved it for himself.

Not everyone can handle high dosages (like Rick and myself, and I almost never get side effects aside from "machine gun Anadrol hiccups"... awfully painful), so it's great to see you & Rick advise alternatives for everyone.

 

[44YOGearHead]

I like a 2:1 ratio myself as test is such a great counter to libido and lethargy issues (if E is kept in check), however you always have to take into consideration we are all different. Looking at both RR and Dylan you can see that what they preach although different in regards to ratio's is effective for them and actually IMO is a great tool to have at our disposal... we can confirm based upon their results that between equal and 2:1 is a Deca sweet spot. They've eliminated any possibility that Deca higher than test can be effective.

 

[Buggy2hot]

I like a 2:1 ratio myself as test is such a great counter to libido and lethargy issues (if E is kept in check), however you always have to take into consideration we are all different. Looking at both RR and Dylan you can see that what they preach although different in regards to ratio's is effective for them and actually IMO is a great tool to have at our disposal... we can confirm based upon their results that between equal and 2:1 is a Deca sweet spot. They've eliminated any possibility that Deca higher than test can be effective.

Perfectly stated. Lethargy is the biggest thing, worse than libido at times (imagine craving the biz with the lady but not having the energy... no bye I). I've always wondered how the legends from the 60's and 70's allegedly ran much higher Organon Deca than Test, or only Deca and/or Primo.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Right as a light. One of my clients came here and read your 350/350 personal dosing and loved it for himself.

Not everyone can handle high dosages (like Rick and myself, and I almost never get side effects aside from "machine gun Anadrol hiccups"... awfully painful), so it's great to see you & Rick advise alternatives for everyone.

absolutely.. we both have to show that there are different ways and methods for different body types... this really is not a topic of debate like people tend to make it.. its a topic of explanation about what each person experiences and goes to show and teach how different we all are and you MUST know YOUR own body and accommodate to it's needs, not necessarily what is more mainstream in terms of dosing...

 

[RickRock]

Right as a light. One of my clients came here and read your 350/350 personal dosing and loved it for himself.

Not everyone can handle high dosages (like Rick and myself, and I almost never get side effects aside from "machine gun Anadrol hiccups"... awfully painful), so it's great to see you & Rick advise alternatives for everyone.

Yep you're absolutely right brother. That's why I don't just suggest my protocols on everyone. A lot of guys aren't going to do as well with a lot of aromatizing compounds. My body loves high test but a,lot of guys will get puffy nips just running half what I do. Different strokes for different folks and nothing fits perfectly for all of us

 

[DylanGemelli]

Yep you're absolutely right brother. That's why I don't just suggest my protocols on everyone. A lot of guys aren't going to do as well with a lot of aromatizing compounds. My body loves high test but a,lot of guys will get puffy nips just running half what I do. Different strokes for different folks and nothing fits perfectly for all of us

absolutely right and thats what a person that really cares and teaches well does bro..