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First cycle advice and shopping list

DylanGemelli said:
well its not down much from where you started... you only need it to drop another 2 points... incredible... they are fucking insane...

im doing a video on how to raise estrogen naturally... here's some foods that will definitely help http://bembu.com/estrogen-rich-foods
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Yeah last year the Dr said the "normal" is out of his hands and is up to the ins companies to decide.

So I'm planning on running the same cycle from earlier in the post, (test only 350/wk). Will the aromasin crash my e levels all the way? Is the low E related to the low T? Should I still run aromasin eod or e3d since I'm low E?


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Locman12 said:
Yeah last year the Dr said the "normal" is out of his hands and is up to the ins companies to decide.

So I'm planning on running the same cycle from earlier in the post, (test only 350/wk). Will the aromasin crash my e levels all the way? Is the low E related to the low T? Should I still run aromasin eod or e3d since I'm low E?


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i would scale it back a bit... try running half a dose at first at least until the mid point of your cycle and then run bloods to see where your at
 
Just got my mid cycle bloods back. So far everything has been great. I feel a shit ton better and have been making consistent gains in both size and strength. I'm up 10lbs and it's pretty clean for the most part. Super happy with the Valhalla test c.

I have a couple of questions.

In my pre cycle bloods my T was
280, it's more than 6x that now. I'm definitely feeling the change. My estradiol was 11 before and has jumped up as well. I'm using aromasin at a lower dose than most because I feared I may crush it. So I've been taking 6.25 eod (sarmsx). What should I bump it up to to get me down just a bit. I'd like to be in the 30-34 range. Should I just bump it to 12.5 eod and see where that puts me at the end of the cycle?

Also it looks like hematocrit and hemoglobin are just a tiny bit high and out of range by 1 point or so. I read up on it a bit but just wasn't sure what people do in that case. I understand it could be as simple as being dehydrated. I drink 1 to 1.5 gal a day, but didn't have much water prior to having blood drawn.


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good deal man that test level is awesome, your rbc's are a little high too but that can be taken care of by going to donate some blood may even get a free tshirt. lol ill let the others chime in on the other high points. but i would try 12.5 eod to see the ill effects of crashing your estro to me is waaaay better than having it too high. joints will cramp may feel sluggish but it bounces back pretty fast i crashed mine on sarmsx arom just to see what it felt like. so i take like 1/4 dropper ed now and it works out fine. i cant say i have had bloods done since the labs where i am working are 2 hrs away one way and now 3 hrs away so i am totally going on feeling which i know isn't the best but i do know what high estro feel like i had mine at 55 last year and i know what low feels like.
 
rockmfhudd said:
good deal man that test level is awesome, your rbc's are a little high too but that can be taken care of by going to donate some blood may even get a free tshirt. lol ill let the others chime in on the other high points. but i would try 12.5 eod to see the ill effects of crashing your estro to me is waaaay better than having it too high. joints will cramp may feel sluggish but it bounces back pretty fast i crashed mine on sarmsx arom just to see what it felt like. so i take like 1/4 dropper ed now and it works out fine. i cant say i have had bloods done since the labs where i am working are 2 hrs away one way and now 3 hrs away so i am totally going on feeling which i know isn't the best but i do know what high estro feel like i had mine at 55 last year and i know what low feels like.
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Yeah everyone says how strong sarmsx aro is so I was scared it go too low. I guess I don't know how it's supposed to feel yet. I have no nipple issues or anything but I may be holding a lil water. I'll adjust and reassess in a few weeks. Thanks man.


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Locman12 said:
Yeah everyone says how strong sarmsx aro is so I was scared it go too low. I guess I don't know how it's supposed to feel yet. I have no nipple issues or anything but I may be holding a lil water. I'll adjust and reassess in a few weeks. Thanks man.


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no probs man like i said i didn't have any sides when i was high 54 as far as nip sensitivity although i was an emotional wreck even my wife was laughing at me crying at a pin drop, lol
then when i crashed it i was stiff when i stood up in my knees and lower back so i backed it off to e3d then got back on track to just dial it in with 1/4 dropper a day and everything seems fine i will know more with bloods tho
 
I'd go 12.5mg EODon it bro. You are overthinking crushing your estrogen big time. It's hard to do it with Aromasin. It can be done but I really think 12.5mg EOD on a 350mg test dose will put you in the range you need to be


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DylanGemelli said:
anytime bro
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In a month or so my cycle will be complete and I'll be on trt. Which sarms would be ideal for a cutting type/clean up bridge? I'm sure GW is in there and possibly sr9009. I'd like to incorporate s4 in there just because I love it but not sure if it fits this equation.

Also in regards to nutrition post cycle-

How long should I keep my calories up? I guess what I don't understand is let's say I ate 2600 cal for maintenance before cycle. During the cycle I slowly worked my way up to 3400 cal for growth and so far my gains have been pretty damn clean. Post cycle Ill definitely be carrying more weight. In theory wouldn't that raise my maintenance number up higher than before? I'm planning on slowly lowering carbs and fats back down to realistic numbers to shred up but wouldn't I require larger calories to maintain my new size and weight? I'm guessing I'd have to judge based on the mirror and stop lowering calories when I'm content with what I see but I wanted to ask the fat loss specialist for thoughts. Thanks.


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