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Advise for test side effects and dose

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Ryanmc

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This is my first post here. I am currently on TRT by my doctor and taking 200mg of test cip a week and danazol. I recently raised my test dose to 300mg a week in preparations of running a Test, EQ and winstrol cycle. I encountered puffy and sore nipples when I raised the test dose. I have been on TRT for a year with zero side effects until now.

I am looking to run the cycle for 16 weeks because I have researched EQ takes time to see results and I will be adding the winstrol the last 6 weeks. I am asking for dose recommendations and other agents to combat the test side effects. Also liver protectant during the cycle and PCT. I am 36 years old, 6' tall and 190 lbs. in good shape. Thanks for any advise given.
 
Ryanmc said:
This is my first post here. I am currently on TRT by my doctor and taking 200mg of test cip a week and danazol. I recently raised my test dose to 300mg a week in preparations of running a Test, EQ and winstrol cycle. I encountered puffy and sore nipples when I raised the test dose. I have been on TRT for a year with zero side effects until now.

I am looking to run the cycle for 16 weeks because I have researched EQ takes time to see results and I will be adding the winstrol the last 6 weeks. I am asking for dose recommendations and other agents to combat the test side effects. Also liver protectant during the cycle and PCT. I am 36 years old, 6' tall and 190 lbs. in good shape. Thanks for any advise given.
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When you raised your test dose, you got more aromatization into estrogen, so the higher levels of estrogen caused your puffy nipples. When you run those higher doses you need Aromasin to combat that and lower estrogen. I would recommend running 12.5mg every other day.

I will be happy to help you setup the cycle but I really need to know what your goal is here so I can properly advise you
 
I take test cip weekly as prescribed by my doctor so I guess I am always "cruising". I would like to take run a cycle to obtain some nice gains that will last after the cycle. I am not looking to get huge but just put on about 10-15 lbs of muscle and lean out. That is why I chose EQ and winstrol. Thanks for the info and help!
 
As Rick pointed out, you need to dial in your AI to combat estrogen conversion from the increased test. A good starting point is aromasin 12.5mg eod.

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A huge part of your goal is heavily dependent on your approach with training and nutrition. Can you give us more info on that? When you say "190lbs, in good shape", what is your bf%?

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I have never measured my body fat % so the best analogy I can give is a visible six pack but not shredded. I eat clean and train 5 days a week.

I am wondering what dose to take the test to when on the cycle. I am concerned with side effects with seeing soreness with a 100mg increase. I was going to progress up to 600. Thoughts?
 
Ryanmc said:
I have never measured my body fat % so the best analogy I can give is a visible six pack but not shredded. I eat clean and train 5 days a week.

I am wondering what dose to take the test to when on the cycle. I am concerned with side effects with seeing soreness with a 100mg increase. I was going to progress up to 600. Thoughts?
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600mg is not necessary on a first cycle bud. What do your levels look like on 200mg through trt with your doc? Part of side effects is controlling the balance of your hormones, hence the need for dialing in your AI.

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I was at 800 test level with 200mg a week. Thanks for the advise, the recommended dose amounts of T while on cycle are all over the place.
 
Ryanmc said:
I was at 800 test level with 200mg a week. Thanks for the advise, the recommended dose amounts of T while on cycle are all over the place.
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Ya especially when first starting, its best to feel yourself out with how you respond to compounds. This way, you can be proactive with isolating sides if any happen to occur. It sounds like you want to recomp based on your goals so I would keep things simple. Eat around maintenance, maybe slightly higher. Keep up with your training and cardio. I'd say Test at 400mg ew split into 2 doses and Aromasin 12.5mg eod would be plenty for your first blast. See how you respond, get bloods to make sure your estrogen is in control, etc. If you're nutrition and training is optimized for your goals, you should be able to make solid gains while continuing to lean out.

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Ryanmc said:
I take test cip weekly as prescribed by my doctor so I guess I am always "cruising". I would like to take run a cycle to obtain some nice gains that will last after the cycle. I am not looking to get huge but just put on about 10-15 lbs of muscle and lean out. That is why I chose EQ and winstrol. Thanks for the info and help!
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Bro you are on 200mg of test, you can gain 10 lbs if you diet and train properly. you are only 190, you have alot of room for growth. if you think adding an extra 200mg of test will help you gain weight, you need to wake up. you already said you got puffy nips from increasing the dose - you will get more side effects when you increase. you can gain the muscle on 200mg that is PLENTY.
 
Ryanmc said:
I was at 800 test level with 200mg a week. Thanks for the advise, the recommended dose amounts of T while on cycle are all over the place.
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im sorry that you have to even deal with things like that brother but as you already know, there is A LOT of misinformation out there and its very difficult to sift through what is what... i am so glad you found your way here and are getting the proper guidance... we promote safety first but in the most aggressive way... there is absolutely no need to run test that high, even as an advanced user... i promise you, 500 mg is top end... so many assholes act like that is the minimum you need to be at and that is just absurd... trust me on this bro... a little bit of a lot of these compounds goes a very long way.. now, there are things like eq, primo and masteron that need to be ran higher but they are far safer etc... there is a huge difference amongst compound types and dosing... you will learn plenty as you go along... i am always here to help if you need me...
 
Hey Dylan. Great you tube videos in Winstrol. What SARMS do you recommend to combat the cholesterol, blood pressure and joint pain from taking winstrol?
 
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