Help pleade, first cycle.

[garzondos]

Hello dylan,

I have been watching your videos on youtube and i can see that you're an experienced man who knows a lot about steroids.

I'm planning on doing my first cycle, a friend of mine sold me some roids, but after watching your video about trenbolone, i am afraid to do anything wrong or stupid.

I have:
testosterone propianato
Winstrol
Trenbolone acetate

Each of these are 100mg per ml.

As i said, i'm not going to use trenbolone.

Could you please help me providing a cycle using test and winstrol, also the pct and recovery products that i will need?

Im 26 years old.
1.83 meters
94 kilograms

Thank s a lot for your help and congratulations for your videos on youtube.

Greeting from Monterrey Mexico.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Hello dylan,

I have been watching your videos on youtube and i can see that you're an experienced man who knows a lot about steroids.

I'm planning on doing my first cycle, a friend of mine sold me some roids, but after watching your video about trenbolone, i am afraid to do anything wrong or stupid.

I have:
testosterone propianato
Winstrol
Trenbolone acetate

Each of these are 100mg per ml.

As i said, i'm not going to use trenbolone.

Could you please help me providing a cycle using test and winstrol, also the pct and recovery products that i will need?

Im 26 years old.
1.83 meters
94 kilograms

Thank s a lot for your help and congratulations for your videos on youtube.

Greeting from Monterrey Mexico.

you made the smartest choice you could have made by coming here and asking before you do this disaster... bro, you definitely cannot use tren on a first cycle whatsoever.. you should only use test, one anabolic steroid, which is test... you can add a few sarms but only one anabolic... you need to just put the tren and winstrol aside... you should really not be using test prop on a first cycle... its not smart whatsoever to begin pinning and having to do it every other day... you are going to regret that one as well... im making you a cycle with test cyp instead of test prop...

i am going to lay out the entire cycle... you can get your sarms, aromasin and pct stack at www.sarmsx.com Here are the links followed by the layout..

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=148&search=triple

https://www.sarmsx.com/liquiaro-15mgs-ml-30mls

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=133&search=platinum



1-12 test cyp 350 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg every other day1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout and non workout days, all at once in the a.m.
1-12 mk-2866 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
11-14 hcg 1000 ius week

pct 15-18


clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[ApexVallen]

How long have you been training? Will your friend let you exchange your propionate for cypionate or enanthate? Go give that tren to someone else! You won't need it for years. If you're doing 12 week cycles, you will only be doing two per year, and you'll need a good handful of cycles under your belt before you start tren, if ever. There's nothing wrong with sticking to the less potent AAS compounds. I guess the next concern is that your friend may end up giving you bad advice somewhere else along the way, make sure to post here if he tells you something that doesn't seem right. You made a smart move by posting here and asking so pat yourself on the back. You're one step ahead of the rest of the clueless gym monkeys out there just from that alone.

And I don't mean to discourage you or make you unnecessarily worried, but you need to keep in mind that there may be something else in those bottles than what is on the label. Its not nice to think about, but that is the reality of the situation. Any chance its a well known lab with a verification number on the label?

 

[Bigsteve5776]

bro holy shit... first cycle ever and you want to run test prop, tren, and winstrol? thank god you came here man because that is the worst idea I've ever heard of in my life first cycles should consist of only testosterone and you should probably run enanthate or cypionate bro or your gonna have to pin every day or every other day idk how you are but i did not enjoy pinning when i ran my first cycle it took me a while to get used to but it is very smart for you to come by and ask questions before just doing it man like apex said there could be some random shit in those vials that you don't want to be injecting into your body man if you ever have any questions everyone here is always willing to help and please ask bro its seriously not a problem for anyone here to help you we'd prefer you asked and be safe then to just go out and blindly do something you may regret later everyone is here to help and there are a lot of good people on here with plenty of knowledge you have a good day brother

 

[garzondos]

How long have you been training? Will your friend let you exchange your propionate for cypionate or enanthate? Go give that tren to someone else! You won't need it for years. If you're doing 12 week cycles, you will only be doing two per year, and you'll need a good handful of cycles under your belt before you start tren, if ever. There's nothing wrong with sticking to the less potent AAS compounds. I guess the next concern is that your friend may end up giving you bad advice somewhere else along the way, make sure to post here if he tells you something that doesn't seem right. You made a smart move by posting here and asking so pat yourself on the back. You're one step ahead of the rest of the clueless gym monkeys out there just from that alone.

And I don't mean to discourage you or make you unnecessarily worried, but you need to keep in mind that there may be something else in those bottles than what is on the label. Its not nice to think about, but that is the reality of the situation. Any chance its a well known lab with a verification number on the label?

Hello bro, thank you very much for responding my question. I really apreciate your help. I have been training since i was 18... For about 8 years but lifting on an off.

The truth is that there are a lot of dudes in the gym that have used roids and the majority of them are gym monkeys as you said, because they said things like... Just run this cycle .. and when i respond them for example... "But bro, i have seen that trenbolone is too much for a first cycle bro, is a bad thing to start with tren".. they say ... Come on i used it and nothing is wrong... Dont be afraid ... And shit like that.

But i dont trust them, thats why i am here, getting information, because you know, health is not a game.

The testosterone is from omega lab, and the tren and winstrol are from xt labs.

 

[garzondos]

bro holy shit... first cycle ever and you want to run test prop, tren, and winstrol? thank god you came here man because that is the worst idea I've ever heard of in my life first cycles should consist of only testosterone and you should probably run enanthate or cypionate bro or your gonna have to pin every day or every other day idk how you are but i did not enjoy pinning when i ran my first cycle it took me a while to get used to but it is very smart for you to come by and ask questions before just doing it man like apex said there could be some random shit in those vials that you don't want to be injecting into your body man if you ever have any questions everyone here is always willing to help and please ask bro its seriously not a problem for anyone here to help you we'd prefer you asked and be safe then to just go out and blindly do something you may regret later everyone is here to help and there are a lot of good people on here with plenty of knowledge you have a good day brother

Thank you very much man. I really apreciate your help and i am glad to see that theres a lot of people here like you that helps a lot without any interest but helping.

Bro.. you said that is better to use only test for first cycle, but what doses and what other products will i need during cycle to prevent gynecomastia and other things..

What to take to reactivate? Hcg doses?

What to take for pct? Clomid Nolvadex?

Its kinda difficult to me because i know things to do but not a complete cycle.. complete doses you know..

You recommend me the testosterone cypionate or enanthate because the life of the test in the blood right?
Cause as i know with propianate you need to use it eod...

Thank you again.

Enviado desde mi HUAWEI G7-L03 mediante Tapatalk

 

[garzondos]

Listen to Dylan.. Good choice

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Thank you bro

 

[garzondos]

you made the smartest choice you could have made by coming here and asking before you do this disaster... bro, you definitely cannot use tren on a first cycle whatsoever.. you should only use test, one anabolic steroid, which is test... you can add a few sarms but only one anabolic... you need to just put the tren and winstrol aside... you should really not be using test prop on a first cycle... its not smart whatsoever to begin pinning and having to do it every other day... you are going to regret that one as well... im making you a cycle with test cyp instead of test prop...

i am going to lay out the entire cycle... you can get your sarms, aromasin and pct stack at www.sarmsx.com Here are the links followed by the layout..

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=148&search=triple

https://www.sarmsx.com/liquiaro-15mgs-ml-30mls

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=133&search=platinum



1-12 test cyp 350 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg every other day1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout and non workout days, all at once in the a.m.
1-12 mk-2866 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
11-14 hcg 1000 ius week

pct 15-18


clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day

Thanks a lot Dylan. And thank you for sharing this cycle to me. Im going to put all this stuff aside. But regarding the sarms i dont know exactly what the sarms are.

I have heard that they are substances like roids but with no or less secondary effects or things like that.

I checked the links you give me, but the truth is that they are too expensive for me, and i am from mexico.

I will try to return or change the testosterone propianate for cypionate or enanthate, but if i can't get it, i will have to use the propianate eod :$.

Could you please provide me a cycle using only test and anti gyne meds ? As i will get aside winstrol also.

What can i use to recovery and pct?

I will really appreciate your response.

Thanks you so much.

 

[Bigsteve5776]

What's you body fat percentage but honestly man from what you were asking me about dosing and pct protocol and what not you should just hang around and learn some more do research man because you need to know what you are doing before you do it it's nit wise to manipulate your hormones and not really know what you are doing to yourself do some research and you can either post again or pm me or anyone else and I'll gladly help come up with a cycle plan find out how to properly dose everything and figure out what you need for pct and the dosing and we can all help you tweak it around there is no reason to jump into this man and don't listen to anyone when they say tren isn't a big deal because I'm running it right now man and I've been ok for the most part but certain sides have hit me very hard and I didn't seriously think it was going to be like this I can deal with it because it's doing a lot for me but the shit is no fucking joke

 

[Bigsteve5776]

But yes go research test only first cycle and some pct protocols and we can talk about what's best for you like I said unless you arnt bothered by pinning often you should probably run cyp or enan on test once you do a little more research

 

[RickRock]

Thanks a lot Dylan. And thank you for sharing this cycle to me. Im going to put all this stuff aside. But regarding the sarms i dont know exactly what the sarms are.

I have heard that they are substances like roids but with no or less secondary effects or things like that.

I checked the links you give me, but the truth is that they are too expensive for me, and i am from mexico.

I will try to return or change the testosterone propianate for cypionate or enanthate, but if i can't get it, i will have to use the propianate eod :$.

Could you please provide me a cycle using only test and anti gyne meds ? As i will get aside winstrol also.

What can i use to recovery and pct?

I will really appreciate your response.

Thanks you so much.

Dylan gave you the best protocol to follow. Everything can be shipped to you no problem in Mexico. However, if you want to run a cycle you need to stick with test only and no other steroids for your first one. Here is how I would run it

1-12 Test C 350mg per week
1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD

PCT starting two weeks after last injection

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/platinum-pct-stack

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK-2866 25mg ED
GW 20mg ED

 

[DylanGemelli]

Thank you very much man. I really apreciate your help and i am glad to see that theres a lot of people here like you that helps a lot without any interest but helping.

Bro.. you said that is better to use only test for first cycle, but what doses and what other products will i need during cycle to prevent gynecomastia and other things..

What to take to reactivate? Hcg doses?

What to take for pct? Clomid Nolvadex?

Its kinda difficult to me because i know things to do but not a complete cycle.. complete doses you know..

You recommend me the testosterone cypionate or enanthate because the life of the test in the blood right?
Cause as i know with propianate you need to use it eod...

Thank you again.

Enviado desde mi HUAWEI G7-L03 mediante Tapatalk

what exactly is your body fat? its very very clear you have not done much studying on anything and thats playing with fire... you need to know your compounds, your pct, your ancillaries inside and out... i need to know your body fat to properly advise you