Masteron cycle advice needed

[KenCastle]

Age: 30
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 210lb
Body fat %: 13%
Years of training: 5
Complete cycle history (compounds, doses, lengths of time, when they were run):
Anavar 2 years ago for 10 weeks @ 100mg/day. I realize this was a mistake now.
PCT for each cycle
Mile thistle and Tribulus for 4 weeks
Goals
Cutting
Supplements (if any)
Protein and Creatine
General idea of nutrition (any food allergies???)
Generally clean. Roughly tracked macronutrients.
Any other relevant info (injuries, surgeries you've had, etc.)
None

Here is my proposed 10 week cycle. The cycle can only be 10 weeks because it must fit between my holidays. I've been researching for a couple months but have found conflicting information.

Weeks 1-10
Test Prop @ 50mg/EOD (My friend with more experience says this is not enough)
Mast Prop @ 150mg/EOD

Weeks 1-6
Stanavar @ 100mg/EOD

PCT:
Clomid @ 50mg for 2 weeks then @ 25mg for 2 weeks.
Nolvadex @ 40mg for 2 weeks then @ 20mg for 2 weeks.
Milk Thistle and Tribulus for 4 weeks.

I was originally going to use Anavar for weeks 1-8, but only have access to Stanavar which I've read is more potent, but also more toxic so my friend suggested only running it for 6 weeks.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

 

[dylangemelli]

Age: 30
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 210lb
Body fat %: 13%
Years of training: 5
Complete cycle history (compounds, doses, lengths of time, when they were run):
Anavar 2 years ago for 10 weeks @ 100mg/day. I realize this was a mistake now.
PCT for each cycle
Mile thistle and Tribulus for 4 weeks
Goals
Cutting
Supplements (if any)
Protein and Creatine
General idea of nutrition (any food allergies???)
Generally clean. Roughly tracked macronutrients.
Any other relevant info (injuries, surgeries you've had, etc.)
None

Here is my proposed 10 week cycle. The cycle can only be 10 weeks because it must fit between my holidays. I've been researching for a couple months but have found conflicting information.

Weeks 1-10
Test Prop @ 50mg/EOD (My friend with more experience says this is not enough)
Mast Prop @ 150mg/EOD

Weeks 1-6
Stanavar @ 100mg/EOD

PCT:
Clomid @ 50mg for 2 weeks then @ 25mg for 2 weeks.
Nolvadex @ 40mg for 2 weeks then @ 20mg for 2 weeks.
Milk Thistle and Tribulus for 4 weeks.

I was originally going to use Anavar for weeks 1-8, but only have access to Stanavar which I've read is more potent, but also more toxic so my friend suggested only running it for 6 weeks.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

okay brother, im sorry but there's a lot of issue with this entire cycle...

1. your body fat is too high to be using masteron... if your not under 10%, your not going to see it even work... masteron is mainly an aesthetic... its the ultimate sculptor and hardener but if your not in the right body fat range, there's nothing to sculpt or utilize for the main capability... you might get some strength, nothing drastic, a libido increase and extra estrogen protection with it but you won't get the main function whatsoever...

2. do you know what stanavar is? its a combination of anavar and winstrol, equally distributed... normal dose of winstrol are 50 mg and anavar at 60 mg and that max length is 6 weeks... so when you run 100 mg of stanavar, you are running BOTH steroids at or near their max doses... NOT WISE BRO... your "friend" is going to get you some nice side effects you could avoid... remember as well, there's far more to protect than you liver with oral steroids.. thats a small fraction of what needs protected... especially with a more toxic oral... you need an all in one protectant... what about your blood pressure, kidneys, cholesterol, systems of the body etc... ??? these are all at huge risk with oral steroids, not just your liver...

3. your pct is not complete at all...

4. where is your AI on cycle?


you've made mistakes in the past and that's fine, that's why your here now but don't make the same mistakes again bro... what are your goals with this cycle? clearly on the surface it appears your after a nice cut but i want to hear from you what your aiming at because often, just because something appears a certain way, people have a different idea of what they want or expect from it

 

[RickRock]

Age: 30
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 210lb
Body fat %: 13%
Years of training: 5
Complete cycle history (compounds, doses, lengths of time, when they were run):
Anavar 2 years ago for 10 weeks @ 100mg/day. I realize this was a mistake now.
PCT for each cycle
Mile thistle and Tribulus for 4 weeks
Goals
Cutting
Supplements (if any)
Protein and Creatine
General idea of nutrition (any food allergies???)
Generally clean. Roughly tracked macronutrients.
Any other relevant info (injuries, surgeries you've had, etc.)
None

Here is my proposed 10 week cycle. The cycle can only be 10 weeks because it must fit between my holidays. I've been researching for a couple months but have found conflicting information.

Weeks 1-10
Test Prop @ 50mg/EOD (My friend with more experience says this is not enough)
Mast Prop @ 150mg/EOD

Weeks 1-6
Stanavar @ 100mg/EOD

PCT:
Clomid @ 50mg for 2 weeks then @ 25mg for 2 weeks.
Nolvadex @ 40mg for 2 weeks then @ 20mg for 2 weeks.
Milk Thistle and Tribulus for 4 weeks.

I was originally going to use Anavar for weeks 1-8, but only have access to Stanavar which I've read is more potent, but also more toxic so my friend suggested only running it for 6 weeks.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

At 13% bodyfat I'd honestly forget about Masteron. You won't see any benefits from it, and it is not going to help you cut. That's not what steroids do.

I don't see a problem running test, but if you want to cut I'd implement some sarms in there. Those are actually going to help you lose bodyfat, get harder and more vascular, and gain lean mass and strength.

I would do a 12 week cycle , and this is how I'd lay it out. Get all your sarms and ancillaries for pct from www.sarmsx.com

1-12 Test 350mg per week
1-12 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 RAD-140 20mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 SR-9009 30mg per day (5mg dosed 6 times every 2-3 hours)

PCT

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/platinum-pct-stack

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK-2866 25mg ED
GW 20mg ED

 

[MasonicBodybuilder]

Mast is a cosmetic steroid and typically used when under 10% body fat. I would reconsider your cycle and look at the advice given above...

 

[JackSteel]

Ooff! Not good man. Take Dylan's advice. That pct is a million miles from sufficient.


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[KenCastle]

Hey guys,

I greatly appreciate the advice. That's why I came here. By no means do I intend to rush into anything.

I guess my first question would be, does sarmsx ship to China, because that is where I currently reside.

My original plan (now out the window) was to run a cycle 6 weeks from now, after my October holiday. I only have 10 weeks between then and my christmas holiday (I always travel) so a 12 week cycle isn't really an option.

The stanavar I have is 50/50 Anavar and Winstrol so if I was going to run it with a Masteron cycle (which I won't until I've lowered my body fat) how would you suggest I run it?

The reason I didn't originally plan to run an AI is because I read that Masteron was anti-estrogenic and was told that with the low test dose I was taking it wouldn't be necessary (wrong!).

My goal is honestly cutting and hardening, but I see now that I'm not ready for that yet.

I've already purchased the Test Prop. Is it worth running by itself or should I hold out until I'm in better shape?

I also have really good private healthcare in China so I plan on having all my levels checked before, during and after any cycle that I run.

Thanks again for the help guys. I'm very grateful to have found Dylan's youtube channel and this forum.

Cheers.

 

[Tazz]

Hey guys,

I greatly appreciate the advice. That's why I came here. By no means do I intend to rush into anything.

I guess my first question would be, does sarmsx ship to China, because that is where I currently reside.

My original plan (now out the window) was to run a cycle 6 weeks from now, after my October holiday. I only have 10 weeks between then and my christmas holiday (I always travel) so a 12 week cycle isn't really an option.

The stanavar I have is 50/50 Anavar and Winstrol so if I was going to run it with a Masteron cycle (which I won't until I've lowered my body fat) how would you suggest I run it?

The reason I didn't originally plan to run an AI is because I read that Masteron was anti-estrogenic and was told that with the low test dose I was taking it wouldn't be necessary (wrong!).

My goal is honestly cutting and hardening, but I see now that I'm not ready for that yet.

I've already purchased the Test Prop. Is it worth running by itself or should I hold out until I'm in better shape?

I also have really good private healthcare in China so I plan on having all my levels checked before, during and after any cycle that I run.

Thanks again for the help guys. I'm very grateful to have found Dylan's youtube channel and this forum.

Cheers.

dude masteron isn't cheap and at 13% body fat your sure going to be wasting money using it..

also sarmsx does ship to China, I would recommend you do exactly what Rick said with the test/SARMS stack, I'd prefer you run it with test enanthate/cyp that you can grab from us at pharmacom if you want, and obviously all SARMS from sarmsx.


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[EZ_E]

1st; thanks for posting your stats...You're on the right track and have the right attitude about keeping an open mind. A few points, observations;

A) Bump on the mast being a great compound ONLY if your BF is low. I learned this the hard way when I was younger.

B) If and when you run a cycle it would be advised to do it when you can be 110% all in on it, meaning don't try to squeeze it in sandwiched between holidays.

C) Yes, very wrong on mast replacing the AI. That is bro-science @ it's finest. Mast does have those properties but it doesn't replace an AI and dose of test is really irrelevant when talking about an AI.

D) Can you split your stanavar? Meaning is it in tablet or capsule form?

 

[dylangemelli]

Hey guys,

I greatly appreciate the advice. That's why I came here. By no means do I intend to rush into anything.

I guess my first question would be, does sarmsx ship to China, because that is where I currently reside.

My original plan (now out the window) was to run a cycle 6 weeks from now, after my October holiday. I only have 10 weeks between then and my christmas holiday (I always travel) so a 12 week cycle isn't really an option.

The stanavar I have is 50/50 Anavar and Winstrol so if I was going to run it with a Masteron cycle (which I won't until I've lowered my body fat) how would you suggest I run it?

The reason I didn't originally plan to run an AI is because I read that Masteron was anti-estrogenic and was told that with the low test dose I was taking it wouldn't be necessary (wrong!).

My goal is honestly cutting and hardening, but I see now that I'm not ready for that yet.

I've already purchased the Test Prop. Is it worth running by itself or should I hold out until I'm in better shape?

I also have really good private healthcare in China so I plan on having all my levels checked before, during and after any cycle that I run.

Thanks again for the help guys. I'm very grateful to have found Dylan's youtube channel and this forum.

Cheers.

Yes, sarmsx absolutely ships to china...

you NEVER cut a cycle short or cram it like that...

whoever made your stanavar should have made each pill 25/25 not 50/50... you need to split them in half if they can be otherwise i would not take it... thats too much to be stacking together...

yes, masteron has ai "properties" but anyone who says it can replace an ai is fucking clueless and they should not be giving any type of guidance whatsoever... this is why people get hurt... a fucking prime example... if you want extra estrogen control, which you dont need here, then go with proviron as well but you cannot replace an ai with a steroid... thats fucking absurd

you should not use test prop on a first cycle man... i understand your new so understand, when you are first introducing your body to pinning, do you think its wise to have run something that not only requires very frequent pinning but also something that can present more pain with injections as well? its not wise in any way to attempt to start with so much pinning...


here is what i would recommend... for the goals you have right now, you need to get under 10%, which you can do... i would start with a straight up sarms cycle... get yourself in the proper condition to where we can include masteron in your cycle.. its mild enough to run on a first cycle, although test only is really what should be ran on a first, i would be cool with someone running something like mast in there...

here is a sarms stack to start with... run this and by mid cycle, we will re assess and see how close you are to where you need to be and start planning for your cycle... just keep the test prop stored for a later cycle... don't be one of those very foolish people that has the mindset, "well i bought it so im using it anyway" that's another concept that gets people hurt...

here is the link to get everything you need as well as the layout... https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=124&search=enhanced+super+stack and https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=138&search=mini

1-12 rad140 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 sr9009 30 mg day... 5 mg split doses 2-3 hours apart
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout and non workout days, all at once in the a.m.
9-12 d aspartic acid


Mini pct 13-16




clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[EZ_E]

^^^ All signs point to....YES.

 

[KenCastle]

I can't really afford to purchase the Enhanced Super Stack right now. What about the 8-12 week cut stack with the Mini PCT stack?

When I finally get my body fat to the acceptable level would my originally proposed stack be acceptable if I extended it to 12 weeks, cut the Stanavar dosage to 50mg/EOD (still ran for 6 weeks) added Aromasin 12.5mg/EOD during the cycle, followed by the Platinum PCT?

I'm already looking to cut my vacation time down to allow for a complete cycle.

Also, is there an optimal temperature/method for storing test? It looks like I'm going to be sitting on it for a little while.

I can't say thank you enough for the advice. It's been a lot to process but safety and longevity are my number one concerns.