hardening

[teku135]

My buddy recently got divorced and he is having a mental breakdown. He has been lifting natural since high school on and off, so he is not in bad shape, but he is kinda fat. Id say about 20-25% but he does have some muscle. He asked me to recommend steroids for him for hardening. I told him id get back to him. I was thinking to start him off at 500mg of test a week. The thing is im not sure what to tell him, he is going to want to run a lot more. He was looking at some you tube videos on steroids,and said he was going to run tren anavar winstrol and masteron. without test, so its obvious he doesn't know what he is doing. Im not sure how to tell him that its not going to work. He is in the state of mind that he has nothing to loose so why not. anyways, even if he was to run all thoes compounds, he wouldnt get much hardening out of it at 25% body fat. and i know he is not willing to diet, but he does do cardio. If i tell him its not going to work, he will do it anyways. what would you guys do

 

[RickRock]

My buddy recently got divorced and he is having a mental breakdown. He has been lifting natural since high school on and off, so he is not in bad shape, but he is kinda fat. Id say about 20-25% but he does have some muscle. He asked me to recommend steroids for him for hardening. I told him id get back to him. I was thinking to start him off at 500mg of test a week. The thing is im not sure what to tell him, he is going to want to run a lot more. He was looking at some you tube videos on steroids,and said he was going to run tren anavar winstrol and masteron. without test, so its obvious he doesn't know what he is doing. Im not sure how to tell him that its not going to work. He is in the state of mind that he has nothing to loose so why not. anyways, even if he was to run all thoes compounds, he wouldnt get much hardening out of it at 25% body fat. and i know he is not willing to diet, but he does do cardio. If i tell him its not going to work, he will do it anyways. what would you guys do

He should absolutely positively not be going anywhere near any sort of steroid whatsoever at that kind of bodyfat. He's only asking for problems cycling at that high of bodyfat. He's at an exponential risk for health issues as well as gyno from extra estrogen conversion.

He just needs to diet plain and simple and work his ass off. If he is looking for a good fat loss aid, we can hook him up with a good Sarms stack, but that is about as far as I would go with it


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[bmyers818]

My buddy recently got divorced and he is having a mental breakdown. He has been lifting natural since high school on and off, so he is not in bad shape, but he is kinda fat. Id say about 20-25% but he does have some muscle. He asked me to recommend steroids for him for hardening. I told him id get back to him. I was thinking to start him off at 500mg of test a week. The thing is im not sure what to tell him, he is going to want to run a lot more. He was looking at some you tube videos on steroids,and said he was going to run tren anavar winstrol and masteron. without test, so its obvious he doesn't know what he is doing. Im not sure how to tell him that its not going to work. He is in the state of mind that he has nothing to loose so why not. anyways, even if he was to run all thoes compounds, he wouldnt get much hardening out of it at 25% body fat. and i know he is not willing to diet, but he does do cardio. If i tell him its not going to work, he will do it anyways. what would you guys do

With the right diet and cardio he'll shed a couple of percentages. Once the commitments there and say he is at 18% he still has no need going anywhere near those compounds for awhile. Keep it simple Test only and if he's dead set some Equipoise. I would stay away from Equipoise just cuz you have to be on it soooo long...maybe 2nd or 3rd cycle. But hey, it's a safe compound

 

[9th Wonder]

Sarms is the only option outside of some good discipline. At that bodyfat percentage I wouldnt recommend AAS at all. Def a reckless approach

 

[DylanGemelli]

My buddy recently got divorced and he is having a mental breakdown. He has been lifting natural since high school on and off, so he is not in bad shape, but he is kinda fat. Id say about 20-25% but he does have some muscle. He asked me to recommend steroids for him for hardening. I told him id get back to him. I was thinking to start him off at 500mg of test a week. The thing is im not sure what to tell him, he is going to want to run a lot more. He was looking at some you tube videos on steroids,and said he was going to run tren anavar winstrol and masteron. without test, so its obvious he doesn't know what he is doing. Im not sure how to tell him that its not going to work. He is in the state of mind that he has nothing to loose so why not. anyways, even if he was to run all thoes compounds, he wouldnt get much hardening out of it at 25% body fat. and i know he is not willing to diet, but he does do cardio. If i tell him its not going to work, he will do it anyways. what would you guys do

thats pretty much the worst thing you could advise him to do and i cant for the life of me figure out why you would advise that? hes WAY too far over where he needs to be to even considering steroid use... he needs to drop over 10% to be in range... DO NOT and i repeat DO NOT even discuss waste time discussing it with him... let him know its the worst thing he could do... steroids are not fat burners and you also need to let him know he is not going to get any sort of hardening whatsoever at that body fat... there's nothing to harden... you dont see muscle hardening like that unless your at a low body fat.. he needs to start with a sarms stack to get his weight down and it will probably take 2 total sarms cycles to drop that amount of body fat... there is clearly a major issue with diet and training that needs to be addressed as well... i dont care what he takes, if he does not get these fixed, then he won't get there... here is the stack to run... everything can be purchased at www.sarmsx.com...



1-12 sr9009 30 mg day... 5 mg split doses 2-3 hours apart
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 mk-2866 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
9-12 daa


Mini pct 13-16




clomid 50/25/25/25
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[Kman61]

Dylan is nailing it. The other path I would suggest is no supplementation at all for say six months. Eat clean. Go to a caloric deficit for 6 months... shoot for say 150 to 200 deficit per day. He won't hit it every day but if you hit that level five of seven with excellent Cardio (30 per day for me) plus training and I generally drop 1 to 1.5 pounds a week. In order to spin the dial, he needs to shed some pounds whilst leaning out. AAS plus 25% body fat means too many things can go wrong on even a simple cycle. Just my two cents.

 

[JackSteel]

He's having a mental breakdown so let's give him steroids? Smh... Fml


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[MaxxPursuit]

He should absolutely positively not be going anywhere near any sort of steroid whatsoever at that kind of bodyfat. He's only asking for problems cycling at that high of bodyfat. He's at an exponential risk for health issues as well as gyno from extra estrogen conversion.

He just needs to diet plain and simple and work his ass off. If he is looking for a good fat loss aid, we can hook him up with a good Sarms stack, but that is about as far as I would go with it


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Exactly. In the situation he's in, aas is a terrible decision. From what you're saying, he seems pretty unstable right now. Set your friend straight so he doesn't hurt himself. Too many risks. Have him stick to diet and training and he'll get some solid results.

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[buen]

My buddy recently got divorced and he is having a mental breakdown. He has been lifting natural since high school on and off, so he is not in bad shape, but he is kinda fat. Id say about 20-25% but he does have some muscle. He asked me to recommend steroids for him for hardening. I told him id get back to him. I was thinking to start him off at 500mg of test a week. The thing is im not sure what to tell him, he is going to want to run a lot more. He was looking at some you tube videos on steroids,and said he was going to run tren anavar winstrol and masteron. without test, so its obvious he doesn't know what he is doing. Im not sure how to tell him that its not going to work. He is in the state of mind that he has nothing to loose so why not. anyways, even if he was to run all thoes compounds, he wouldnt get much hardening out of it at 25% body fat. and i know he is not willing to diet, but he does do cardio. If i tell him its not going to work, he will do it anyways. what would you guys do

Tell him to make a will and get his estate in order

 

[Iwannagofaster]

I'm thinking an anti depressant or anti anxiety med would be more appropriate.

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[JackSteel]

I'm thinking an anti depressant or anti anxiety med would be more appropriate.

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Marijuana.


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