Test e, tbol cycle

[tronezs]

Hey Dylan

I watch your YouTube videos and all your posts and you make more sense than anyone so you the man right now.

Cycle

Wk 1-16 Test e 500 mg (250mg mon and thursday)
Wk 1-6 tbol 60 mg Ed (30 mid morning, 30 before or after training)
Wk 12 - 18 tbol (again up day before pct) 60 mg Ed
Wk 14 - 18 HCG 1000 iu/wk
Aromasin - do I need it?

Wk 18 - 22 clomid 50/50/25/25
Wk 18 - 22 nolva 40/40/20/20

I'm age 37 around 5'11, 195 pounds. About 12 % bf.
Ex army commando training weights for as long can remember. My weight has been up around 100 kg. Lifts up to 200 kg bench. 210 kg deadlift. Etc. Back down to 195 due to traveling, injuries etc. Normally sit around 205. Sorry just to give you an idea.

Quite a few cycles over the years and never run a pct. Never really noticed side effects.

No gear for about 3 years now because I decided to stay away from it for a while. Tbol with test e with good pct should be mild sides with decent gains right?

Questions...

1. Is that too much tbol? 6 weeks kick start. 6 wks to finish up day before pct? Gets me a 6 wk break off the tbol on a 16 wk test cycle if tbol is run up too pct.

2. Is the HCG run 4 wks up to pct and is the dosage correct for this mild but 16 wk cycle?

3. Do I need an AI? Aromasin? 12.5 mg eod? How long for?

I know you recommend other things but I can't get that stuff. I live in Indonesia. Too difficult.
I know also you may say 'well don't do the cycle if you don't have everything you need'.. but bro this will be a fuck load better than no pct, no HCG, no AI as we've done for years coming off test, deca and dbol for example.

I want this to be really as mild as possible but as well as the kickstart, I want to finish the cycle and maximise that period up to pct. I don't want dbol. Or to add tren or anything full on. Once I've experimented with tbol, I'll add something to the next cycle next year

Hope I'm making sense to you.

BF is a guess. Maybe 15 %? Check the foto. Yeah im fat now haha.

 

[DylanGemelli]

Hey Dylan

I watch your YouTube videos and all your posts and you make more sense than anyone so you the man right now.

Cycle

Wk 1-16 Test e 500 mg (250mg mon and thursday)
Wk 1-6 tbol 60 mg Ed (30 mid morning, 30 before or after training)
Wk 12 - 18 tbol (again up day before pct) 60 mg Ed
Wk 14 - 18 HCG 1000 iu/wk
Aromasin - do I need it?

Wk 18 - 22 clomid 50/50/25/25
Wk 18 - 22 nolva 40/40/20/20

I'm age 37 around 5'11, 195 pounds. About 12 % bf.
Ex Australian army commando training weights for as long can remember. My weight has been up around 100 kg. Lifts up to 200 kg bench. 210 kg deadlift. Etc. Back down to 195 due to traveling, injuries etc. Normally sit around 205. Sorry just to give you an idea.

Quite a few cycles over the years and never run a pct. Never really noticed side effects. All mates are huge and run 8 minute 2.4 km runs.. lean guys who have used a lot of gear and still wouldn't know what PCT if you saved them. Yeah that's bad obviously.

No gear for about 3 years now because I decided to stay away from it for a while. Tbol with test e with good pct should be mild sides with decent gains right?

Questions...

1. Is that too much tbol? 6 weeks kick start. 6 wks to finish up day before pct? Gets me a 6 wk break off the tbol on a 16 wk test cycle if tbol is run up too pct.

2. Is the HCG run 4 wks up to pct and is the dosage correct for this mild but 16 wk cycle?

3. Do I need an AI? Aromasin? 12.5 mg eod? How long for?

I know you recommend other things but I can't get that stuff. I live in Indonesia. Too difficult.
I know also you may say 'well don't do the cycle if you don't have everything you need'.. but bro this will be a fuck load better than no pct, no HCG, no AI as we've done for years coming off test, deca and dbol for example.

I want this to be really as mild as possible but as well as the kickstart, I want to finish the cycle and maximise that period up to pct. I don't want dbol. Or to add tren or anything full on. Once I've experimented with tbol, I'll add something to the next cycle next year

Hope I'm making sense to you.

BF is a guess. Maybe 15 %? Check the foto. Yeah im fat now haha.

you CAN get everything you need in Indonesia... thats completely untrue... sarmsx ships their frequently with no issues...

i would definitely not use tbol twice and would not be running a 16 week cycle of just test... you would be better off using winstrol on the back end... of course you need an ai... why would you ever think you would not? you do realize test converts to estrogen right? your pct is NOT complete either.. i am going to give you the links for everything you need followed by the layout... i am adding a few sarms in here to full enhance this... forget any orals on the back... winstrol is a better option but not necessary here...

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=150&search=ultra

https://www.sarmsx.com/liquiaro-15mgs-ml-30mls

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=133&search=platinum

1-12 test e 500 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg every other day
1-6 tbol 60 mg day
1-6 cycle assist
1-12 rad140 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout and non workout days, all at once in the a.m.
11-14 hcg 1000 ius week

pct 15-18


clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[RickRock]

I would follow Dylans advice. He gave you a very strong layout to follow which covers you well from top to bottom. You want to make sure you do everyone the right and safe way, despite you not doing that in the past.

 

[sowhore]

you CAN get everything you need in Indonesia... thats completely untrue... sarmsx ships their frequently with no issues...

i would definitely not use tbol twice and would not be running a 16 week cycle of just test... you would be better off using winstrol on the back end... of course you need an ai... why would you ever think you would not? you do realize test converts to estrogen right? your pct is NOT complete either.. i am going to give you the links for everything you need followed by the layout... i am adding a few sarms in here to full enhance this... forget any orals on the back... winstrol is a better option but not necessary here...

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=150&search=ultra

https://www.sarmsx.com/liquiaro-15mgs-ml-30mls

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=133&search=platinum

1-12 test e 500 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg every other day
1-6 tbol 60 mg day
1-6 cycle assist
1-12 rad140 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout and non workout days, all at once in the a.m.
11-14 hcg 1000 ius week

pct 15-18


clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day

500 mg a weeks of test is not so much Dylan ?

 

[IND]

500 mg a weeks of test is not so much Dylan ?

Untrue. 500mg of test is more than enough for a first cycle and you absolutely need an AI or you will regret it

 

[RickRock]

500 mg a weeks of test is not so much Dylan ?

What have you ran test at in past cycles? Actually, 350mg is a dose that I'd recommend unless you have experience with higher doses of test

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[DylanGemelli]

500 mg a weeks of test is not so much Dylan ?

i like it to be 350-500 for test dosing... there is no need to exceed 500 but you can go with 500 here... i put that in there because it appeared you wanted to run that amount and although its not completely necessary, it would be okay to run it there...

 

[sowhore]

What have you ran test at in past cycles? Actually, 350mg is a dose that I'd recommend unless you have experience with higher doses of test

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i did my last cycle at 100 mg/ml of test p eod =350 mg/ml weekly

 

[sowhore]

i like it to be 350-500 for test dosing... there is no need to exceed 500 but you can go with 500 here... i put that in there because it appeared you wanted to run that amount and although its not completely necessary, it would be okay to run it there...

ok but i remember u told us many times to do not going much higher as 350 mg/ml of test weekly if i wasn't wrong

 

[DylanGemelli]

ok but i remember u told us many times to do not going much higher as 350 mg/ml of test weekly if i wasn't wrong

i NEVER said you cannot go over 350... link me where i said that... because thats completely untrue... i said often times its not necessary... i NEVER ONCE said you cannot... i want to see the post where i said that because its non existent

 

[SpikedEggnog]

bro nobody said dont go over 350. but generally speaking 250-350 is a decent dose for the average person with less experience with cycles. 500mg is MORE then plenty bro. that is a heavy dose in my opinion. i would go 350mg

 

[RickRock]

ok but i remember u told us many times to do not going much higher as 350 mg/ml of test weekly if i wasn't wrong

It's not that you can't run test higher, you absolutely can. It's iust that you want to start with lower amounts of test when first starting cycling and build up to other dosages as you assess your tolerance to it and your estrogen sensitivity. Some do better with higher doses of test than others. That's why I asked if you had ran higher test before

 

[SpikedEggnog]

It's not that you can't run test higher, you absolutely can. It's iust that you want to start with lower amounts of test when first starting cycling and build up to other dosages as you assess your tolerance to it and your estrogen sensitivity. Some do better with higher doses of test than others. That's why I asked if you had ran higher test before

exactly bro....

 

[tronezs]

Ok I'm just seeing the replies now. Thanks for the advice. Good you can deliver to indo too.

 

[tronezs]

The original post was actually via email to Dylan. I didn't expect it to be posted to a public forum so I've just deleted some of the personal info. Thanks for the replies anyway. I'll follow that recommended cycle dylan.

 

[DylanGemelli]

The original post was actually via email to Dylan. I didn't expect it to be posted to a public forum so I've just deleted some of the personal info. Thanks for the replies anyway. I'll follow that recommended cycle dylan.

for sure bro... my advice is always that test over 500 mg is not necessary... its far more acceptable for a veteran user... my personal feeling is that its not necessary... test is the backbone to every cycle... it makes a cycle what it is but it supports everything else and i like the other compounds to shine... i dont feel all of the extra estrogen conversion is necessary etc... here's an example of an exception to the rule... Rick does not get any estrogen sides when he runs test at 750 or more... he's just lucky and so its far more acceptable for him but many do not have that luxury... for me, i never play games with doses where its questionable... i keep it all as safe as possible while still staying aggressive...

 

[tronezs]

How would you run winstrol in the cycle you recommended? Wk 11-14 50 mg a day? Right up to pct ?

 

[Flanex]

Hey Dylan

I watch your YouTube videos and all your posts and you make more sense than anyone so you the man right now.

Cycle

Wk 1-16 Test e 500 mg (250mg mon and thursday)
Wk 1-6 tbol 60 mg Ed (30 mid morning, 30 before or after training)
Wk 12 - 18 tbol (again up day before pct) 60 mg Ed
Wk 14 - 18 HCG 1000 iu/wk
Aromasin - do I need it?

Wk 18 - 22 clomid 50/50/25/25
Wk 18 - 22 nolva 40/40/20/20

I'm age 37 around 5'11, 195 pounds. About 12 % bf.
Ex army commando training weights for as long can remember. My weight has been up around 100 kg. Lifts up to 200 kg bench. 210 kg deadlift. Etc. Back down to 195 due to traveling, injuries etc. Normally sit around 205. Sorry just to give you an idea.

Quite a few cycles over the years and never run a pct. Never really noticed side effects.

No gear for about 3 years now because I decided to stay away from it for a while. Tbol with test e with good pct should be mild sides with decent gains right?

Questions...

1. Is that too much tbol? 6 weeks kick start. 6 wks to finish up day before pct? Gets me a 6 wk break off the tbol on a 16 wk test cycle if tbol is run up too pct.

2. Is the HCG run 4 wks up to pct and is the dosage correct for this mild but 16 wk cycle?

3. Do I need an AI? Aromasin? 12.5 mg eod? How long for?

I know you recommend other things but I can't get that stuff. I live in Indonesia. Too difficult.
I know also you may say 'well don't do the cycle if you don't have everything you need'.. but bro this will be a fuck load better than no pct, no HCG, no AI as we've done for years coming off test, deca and dbol for example.

I want this to be really as mild as possible but as well as the kickstart, I want to finish the cycle and maximise that period up to pct. I don't want dbol. Or to add tren or anything full on. Once I've experimented with tbol, I'll add something to the next cycle next year

Hope I'm making sense to you.

BF is a guess. Maybe 15 %? Check the foto. Yeah im fat now haha.

I don't see any organ support in your layout.You're gonna need an organ support if you're doing orals.Most here recommend CEL(competitive edge labs)Cycle Support.You can find it on Amazon.

 

[RickRock]

How would you run winstrol in the cycle you recommended? Wk 11-14 50 mg a day? Right up to pct ?

Generally the last 4-6 weeks of the cycle at 50mg per day is what's normally reco,mended. Just make sure you use liver protection and supports while on orals


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