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Starting cycle

Naes

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I've ran a decent amount of prohormones. This is my first time switching over. What should I run?? My diet and work out is pretty good. I been cutting for 3 months now. And I am ready to bulk again..
 
Throw up some more stats.. Height weight age BF % what PH you uses and how they treated you, what did you PCT with them? How did you feel/gains etc. How you feel now? Ever do bloodwork?
 
Naes said:
I've ran a decent amount of prohormones. This is my first time switching over. What should I run?? My diet and work out is pretty good. I been cutting for 3 months now. And I am ready to bulk again..


as King Wizard asked... we need to get more info bro... age/height/weight/body fat? cycle history? exactly goals... when you say bulk, do you mean more of a recomp or straight bulk? have you used any injectables? prone to anything? you have to provide more details bro..
 
Give us your stats and experience, and tell us a little bit about yourself, goals, etc...and we would be more than happy to help you brother
 
Age 35. Currently 197 lbs I'm going to say 15 percent body fat. I've ran m-sten loved it strength and size went through the roof 10pound gain keep half. I've had dmz 3.0 didn't really care for it. I just hardened up on it. Quad methyl that was decent one. Had a lot of side affects. Cholesterol went through the roof with that one blood pressure went to. I went from 170 to 215 in 8 months. On cycle I used blockade with all pct I used 3x pct. I haven't used injectable yet. I'm changing to them. My goals are 230 to 240 weight at 10 to 12 percent bf. When I say bulking I mean I'm ready to start gaining again. Lean bulking but I know water and fat comes with the gains sometimes.



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Age 35. Currently 197 lbs I'm going to say 15 percent body fat. I've ran m-sten loved it strength and size went through the roof 10pound gain keep half. I've had dmz 3.0 didn't really care for it. I just hardened up on it. Quad methyl that was decent one. Had a lot of side affects. Cholesterol went through the roof with that one blood pressure went to. I went from 170 to 215 in 8 months. On cycle I used blockade with all pct I used 3x pct. I haven't used injectable yet. I'm changing to them. My goals are 230 to 240 weight at 10 to 12 percent bf. When I say bulking I mean I'm ready to start gaining again. Lean bulking but I know water and fat comes with the gains sometimes.



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For your first injectibles cycle, I would recommend test only for 12 weeks. You could also kick off with an oral and I would recommend throwing some sarms in as well. I would also recommend lowering your bodyfat a bit more before starting. 15% is the max I would recommend before starting a cycle, and its only going to increase going into a bulk.

Here is a good setup for you

1-12 Test E 500mg per week
1-12 aromasin 12.5mg EOD
1-12 LGD 10mg per day
1-4 Tbol 60mg per day
1-12 GW 20mg Per day

PCT started two weeks after last injection

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 20/20/10/10
GW 20mg per day
MK-2866 25mg per day
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD

Get your sarms at http://www.pureessencesarms.com

If you need a gear source send me a PM and I'll hook you up with a price list and discount for Biotech
 
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Naes said:
Age 35. Currently 197 lbs I'm going to say 15 percent body fat. I've ran m-sten loved it strength and size went through the roof 10pound gain keep half. I've had dmz 3.0 didn't really care for it. I just hardened up on it. Quad methyl that was decent one. Had a lot of side affects. Cholesterol went through the roof with that one blood pressure went to. I went from 170 to 215 in 8 months. On cycle I used blockade with all pct I used 3x pct. I haven't used injectable yet. I'm changing to them. My goals are 230 to 240 weight at 10 to 12 percent bf. When I say bulking I mean I'm ready to start gaining again. Lean bulking but I know water and fat comes with the gains sometimes.



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For your first injectibles cycle, I would recommend test only for 12 weeks. You could also kick off with an oral and I would recommend throwing some sarms in as well. I would also recommend lowering your bodyfat a bit more before starting. 15% is the max I would recommend before starting a cycle, and its only going to increase going into a bulk.

Here is a good setup for you

1-12 Test E 500mg per week
1-12 aromasin 12.5mg EOD
1-12 LGD 10mg per day
1-4 Tbol 60mg per day
1-12 GW 20mg Per day

PCT started two weeks after last injection

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 20/20/10/10
GW 20mg per day
MK-2866 25mg per day
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD

Get your sarms at http://www.pureessencesarms.com

If you need a gear source send me a PM and I'll hook you up with a price list and discount for Biotech
Thanks for the input. Is there a particular reason you choose tbol over dbol? I'm good either way but just curious. And the pct is all of that or any of that? The more I know the better I will grow.

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Naes said:
RickRock said:
Naes said:
Age 35. Currently 197 lbs I'm going to say 15 percent body fat. I've ran m-sten loved it strength and size went through the roof 10pound gain keep half. I've had dmz 3.0 didn't really care for it. I just hardened up on it. Quad methyl that was decent one. Had a lot of side affects. Cholesterol went through the roof with that one blood pressure went to. I went from 170 to 215 in 8 months. On cycle I used blockade with all pct I used 3x pct. I haven't used injectable yet. I'm changing to them. My goals are 230 to 240 weight at 10 to 12 percent bf. When I say bulking I mean I'm ready to start gaining again. Lean bulking but I know water and fat comes with the gains sometimes.



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For your first injectibles cycle, I would recommend test only for 12 weeks. You could also kick off with an oral and I would recommend throwing some sarms in as well. I would also recommend lowering your bodyfat a bit more before starting. 15% is the max I would recommend before starting a cycle, and its only going to increase going into a bulk.

Here is a good setup for you

1-12 Test E 500mg per week
1-12 aromasin 12.5mg EOD
1-12 LGD 10mg per day
1-4 Tbol 60mg per day
1-12 GW 20mg Per day

PCT started two weeks after last injection

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 20/20/10/10
GW 20mg per day
MK-2866 25mg per day
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD

Get your sarms at http://www.pureessencesarms.com

If you need a gear source send me a PM and I'll hook you up with a price list and discount for Biotech
Thanks for the input. Is there a particular reason you choose tbol over dbol? I'm good either way but just curious. And the pct is all of that or any of that? The more I know the better I will grow.

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Hey brother... that's the full pct... that has you covered... let me expound a bit on rick's cycle... he has it right on the money for you in terms of compounds... i just want to touch it up and explain why tbol... Tbol in conjunction with LGD will act like dbol WITHOUT the bloat, estrogen, water retention etc... its so much cleaner and will still add massive size... you want keepable and sustainable gains with the least amount of side effects.. its a FAR better option... Here is how I would run this

1-12 test cyp 500 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-14 proviron 50 mg day
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day
1-14 gw-501516 20 mg day
1-12 s4 50 mg day
1-6 tbol 60 mg day
1-6 cycle assist
11-14 hcg 1000 ius week

pct 15-18

clomid 50/50/25/25

nolva 40/20/20/20

aromasin 12.5 mg eod

cycle assist

mk-2866 25 mg day

gw-501516 20 mg day



watch my video on pct here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ_bD25Fuxc
 
This is why I came to you guys. Yall know your shit. Thanks so much. I already feel like a family member here. I will starting this very soon. I have quite a few items to snag up

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Naes said:
This is why I came to you guys. Yall know your shit. Thanks so much. I already feel like a family member here. I will starting this very soon. I have quite a few items to snag up

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anytime brother... you are more than welcome and i am always happy to help in any way possible... don't hesitate to let me know if you need anything...
 
Hey Dylan. How do you feel about osta shred? It says it contains 25mg ostarine and 50mg arimistane. If that is true wouldnt that kill two birds with one stone??

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Naes said:
Hey Dylan. How do you feel about osta shred? It says it contains 25mg ostarine and 50mg arimistane. If that is true wouldnt that kill two birds with one stone??

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unfortunately that is a very low quality brand and product... i would just rather you not run anything at all than go that route
 
Or this product called sarmazine it contains 50mg of osta 20mg of lgd and 40mg of gw

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Naes said:
Or this product called sarmazine it contains 50mg of osta 20mg of lgd and 40mg of gw

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once again, very poor... you can try it out brother, by all means but unfortunately you will have to learn the hard way on what is a true authentic product and what is not... these capsules are not nearly as potent nor structured properly like they should be when suspended in grain alcohol... sarms were not intended to be used in capsules and these companies are not only going to get shut down for selling a research product freely but they are also selling a far inferior product and giving sarms a bad name...
 
DylanGemelli said:
Naes said:
Or this product called sarmazine it contains 50mg of osta 20mg of lgd and 40mg of gw

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once again, very poor... you can try it out brother, by all means but unfortunately you will have to learn the hard way on what is a true authentic product and what is not... these capsules are not nearly as potent nor structured properly like they should be when suspended in grain alcohol... sarms were not intended to be used in capsules and these companies are not only going to get shut down for selling a research product freely but they are also selling a far inferior product and giving sarms a bad name...


This is the absolute truth. I wouldn't trust any capsulated sarms. I've never heard anyone have good results from them. Most of those companies are shady, and are trying to get away with selling research chemicals in capsule form which already sends out a big red flag
 
No no that's why I'm asking. Liquid form it is. How do you normally take the liquid forms? Do you mix them?

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Naes said:
No no that's why I'm asking. Liquid form it is. How do you normally take the liquid forms? Do you mix them?

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Just take them straight from the dropper bro. It's fine to chase them afterwards with something, but never mix them
 
Naes said:
No no that's why I'm asking. Liquid form it is. How do you normally take the liquid forms? Do you mix them?

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you just take them straight down brother and if you find you need a chaser then that is fine...
 
Naes said:
Hey Dylan. How do you feel about osta shred? It says it contains 25mg ostarine and 50mg arimistane. If that is true wouldnt that kill two birds with one stone??

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Just my two cents: I ran Osta Shred several months back and was not impressed. Overall, there were no significant benefits (very slight gain in density and strength) and I felt that it dried my joints out a bit. Also, it looks like most of the raving reviews on their website were from people who received major discounts on the product. I could be wrong though.
 
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