Proper 2nd cycle + AI

[golfbigguy]

Hello Dylan.


Im writing to you to get some knowledge about my 2nd AAS cycle.

My first cycle consisted of:

250-500mg sustanon ew
250mg trenbolone ew
20mg Arimidex eod


I know it was dumb of me to run such a harsh drug as trenbolone for my first cycle, but hey, we all make mistakes, and therefore I seek your advice for my next cycle.

I ran a PCT after my 1st cycle consisting of 15.000uis HCG, and Nolvadex 40/40/20/20mg EW to get my nuts back online, and its been fine all along.


My 2nd cycle Im gonna run Test enanthate and Deca Durabolin and here’s where I need your guidance:



Which AI do you prefer against estrogen, how much of a dose, and how often? I know we are not the same, and we react differently, but I just want your opinion on that.

The same with Prolactin, which drug, which dose and how often? – Is it correct, that active vitamin B6 + Zinc, can be used instead of Caborgoline or Prami?



Which dose of Test e + Deca would you prefer EW?

Whatwould a perfect PCT look like, after a test/deca cycle?



Are there any other advice you could give me along on my 2nd cycle, and do you have some points on what and where I need to be concerned in my next cycle?



Infos on me:



Im 26 years old, im 190cm tall, and weigh about 90kilos.

 

[EZ_E]

How long ago was your 1st cycle?

How long did you run it for?

250 or 500 mg's of test? Which one?

What's your bodyfat?

 

[golfbigguy]

How long ago was your 1st cycle?

How long did you run it for?

250 or 500 mg's of test? Which one?

What's your bodyfat?

3 month

12 weeks

250/500mg sust ew

bodyfat around 12%

 

[MaxxPursuit]

3 month

12 weeks

250/500mg sust ew

bodyfat around 12%

You finished your first cycle 3 months ago? Time on + pct = time off is best to be followed bud. So if you ran your cycle for 12 weeks + 2 weeks waiting for esters to clear + 4 Weeks pct = 18 weeks Off. Also are you saying you randomly ran 250 to 500mg a week of sust? That's pretty ridiculous dude. Big difference there. You should pick a number and be consistent with it. You don't want to be randomly doing pins of varying dosages. Have you gotten bloodwork since your first cycle to make sure you recovered properly? For your AI, you want Aromasin. Its the superior AI. Start with 12.5mg EOD and adjust accordingly. B6 will not come close to the protection you need compared to caber or prami. If you have the choice, go with caber. I know its expensive but trust me, you'll want it if you start getting prolactin issues. Last thing you want is to start having problems like leaking nips and nothing to fix it. Always keep caber on hand when running a nandro. Anyhow.. before doing anything, get some bloodwork done man.

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[DylanGemelli]

Hello Dylan.


Im writing to you to get some knowledge about my 2nd AAS cycle.

My first cycle consisted of:

250-500mg sustanon ew
250mg trenbolone ew
20mg Arimidex eod


I know it was dumb of me to run such a harsh drug as trenbolone for my first cycle, but hey, we all make mistakes, and therefore I seek your advice for my next cycle.

I ran a PCT after my 1st cycle consisting of 15.000uis HCG, and Nolvadex 40/40/20/20mg EW to get my nuts back online, and its been fine all along.


My 2nd cycle Im gonna run Test enanthate and Deca Durabolin and here’s where I need your guidance:



Which AI do you prefer against estrogen, how much of a dose, and how often? I know we are not the same, and we react differently, but I just want your opinion on that.

The same with Prolactin, which drug, which dose and how often? – Is it correct, that active vitamin B6 + Zinc, can be used instead of Caborgoline or Prami?



Which dose of Test e + Deca would you prefer EW?

Whatwould a perfect PCT look like, after a test/deca cycle?



Are there any other advice you could give me along on my 2nd cycle, and do you have some points on what and where I need to be concerned in my next cycle?



Infos on me:



Im 26 years old, im 190cm tall, and weigh about 90kilos.

hey bro... what is your current body fat?

YOU NEVER USE HCG IN PCT... literally the worst thing you could do during pct... ! Have you had bloodwork done? did you use anything for prolactin control with tren??? when was your last cycle completed? how long was your cycle?

 

[BigassMOFO]

hey bro... what is your current body fat?

YOU NEVER USE HCG IN PCT... literally the worst thing you could do during pct... ! Have you had bloodwork done? did you use anything for prolactin control with tren??? when was your last cycle completed? how long was your cycle?

Why not use HCG during PCT? - Millions and millions in the EU use HCG during PCT.

I know theres different ways of doing it.. both while ON and during PCT, but WHY is it bad to use it during PCT?

 

[golfbigguy]

hey bro... what is your current body fat?

YOU NEVER USE HCG IN PCT... literally the worst thing you could do during pct... ! Have you had bloodwork done? did you use anything for prolactin control with tren??? when was your last cycle completed? how long was your cycle?

hey

bodyfat around 11%

How would u prefer to take the pct then?

No bloodwork done yet.

Didnt use anything for prolactin - but this time i will buy caber/prami - better safe than sorry. How much caber/prami whould u prefer to take a day or EO2, while on cycle? and when?

my cycle was 12 weeks and it is about 3 month ago now (include pct) 3 month off.


can u please tell me, what is a good dosis of test e/deca on a second cycle EW?

And i will get Aromasin and eat 12,5 EOD, and see how it goes

Best regards.

 

[golfbigguy]

dont use tren in a second cycle..

I not going after tren in my second cycle...

I ask for dosis of Test E/Deca - And against Prolactin - how often and how much caber/prami should i take when on cycle?


in my first cycle i ran 500mg test e EW (Sustanon 250)

Best regards.

 

[RickRock]

Why not use HCG during PCT? - Millions and millions in the EU use HCG during PCT.

I know theres different ways of doing it.. both while ON and during PCT, but WHY is it bad to use it during PCT?

HCG mimics LH, so while on it you can't technically ever recover. It's just prolonging your recovery. That makes it counterproductive to pct, and why you don't ever run it there. It is meant to be used before pct on cycle and while steers clear only

 

[RickRock]

You still have a couple more months before you start a cycle, and I really think you need bloodwork to see what's going on before we advise you on a cycle, considering you didn't run the right pct

 

[golfbigguy]

You still have a couple more months before you start a cycle, and I really think you need bloodwork to see what's going on before we advise you on a cycle, considering you didn't run the right pct

Then.. Whould u tell me the perfect pct ? If we talk 500mg test e EW and 300 mg deca EW. ? and the ideal amount and when i should eat caber/prami for prolactin.

best regards.

 

[BigassMOFO]

HCG mimics LH, so while on it you can't technically ever recover. It's just prolonging your recovery. That makes it counterproductive to pct, and why you don't ever run it there. It is meant to be used before pct on cycle and while steers clear only

I use to run my test and whatever, then when i stop, i wait for the esters to clear from my body, after that, i use 2500ui hcg e3d. 3 Days after last Jab of HCG, i start my Clomid/nolva etc..

 

[RickRock]

Then.. Whould u tell me the perfect pct ? If we talk 500mg test e EW and 300 mg deca EW. ? and the ideal amount and when i should eat caber/prami for prolactin.

best regards.

You don't eat caber bro. They come in pill form that you take. Proper dose is 0.5mg twice per week or every 3 days


Proper pct after cycle would look like this

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/platinum-pct-stack

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK-2866 25mg ED
GW 20mg ED

 

[RickRock]

I use to run my test and whatever, then when i stop, i wait for the esters to clear from my body, after that, i use 2500ui hcg e3d. 3 Days after last Jab og HCG, i start my Clomid/nolva etc..

Ya man, you need to be running that HCG BEFORE esters clear, not after

And that dose is way too high. HCG doesn't need to be higher than 500ius twice per week

 

[BigassMOFO]

Ya man, you need to be running that HCG BEFORE esters clear, not after

And that dose is way too high. HCG doesn't need to be higher than 500ius twice per week

I dont understand why, and i need explanation. WHY jab HCG with test STILL supressing your natural production? Isnt that worthless/counter productive for my recovery?
Why not wait for all the TEST to leave my body, and THEN, try to bring nuts back to life?

Also i know 2500 e3d is way to high, IF you blast hcg troughout your cycle (while on) - but i use to shoot it after my cycle, and thats why its such high doses, its only 6 jabs = 15.000uis

 

[golfbigguy]

You don't eat caber bro. They come in pill form that you take. Proper dose is 0.5mg twice per week or every 3 days


Proper pct after cycle would look like this

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/platinum-pct-stack

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK-2866 25mg ED
GW 20mg ED

i have NEVER hear this form for PCT (im from Europa - Scandinavia)



Prami vs caber - Same dose? (E3D 0,5mg) ?

 

[RickRock]

i have NEVER hear this form for PCT (im from Europa - Scandinavia)



Prami vs caber - Same dose? (E3D 0,5mg) ?

That's the standard pct protocol we all believe very strongly in, and have for quite some time.

Of course you'll get varying opinions out there, but this is what I personally believe is best to give you the most successful shot at recovery and keeping your gains

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[DylanGemelli]

i have NEVER hear this form for PCT (im from Europa - Scandinavia)



Prami vs caber - Same dose? (E3D 0,5mg) ?

okay bro... serious education time for you... FIRST... watch my videos on hcg so you can understand why its literally the worst thing you can do in pct

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQnRt3rTqac

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0o4Xf3VMCM


Now, watch my videos on pct...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_JzXTKlOko

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ_bD25Fuxc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IVqNLhP3Vk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_rusffPhWw




All the explanation and info you need and a lot more! your doing things wrong bro... we are simply trying to help you correct this so you can be the safest, healthiest and continue to surpass goals...

here is the link to the proper pct as well as the layout... https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=133&search=platinum

clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day