Primo / Deca Stack... How low can the test go?

[G831BS0]

First... THANK YOU so much for the information you've published on YouTube. I stumbled upon your channel when I was thinking about doing my first, Winstrol-only, cycle and... lol, just writing this now I can't even believe how ignorant I was and how blessed I am to have found your channel before I did something stupid. I could tell after the first video that you put a ton of time and effort into the content and (most importantly to me) have actual SCIENCE behind it where possible, not just the bro-science. I've watched damn near all your vids and some 2-3 times...

My first cycle was a success, and I'm starting my 2nd now: 16 weeks of primo 800, deca 400, and test cyp (I have a pro source that I trust with my life). I'm doing a Winstrol kickstart for the first 4 weeks until the primo kicks in and then two weeks on the back end. I'll give you one guess where I got the idea for this cycle lol.

(Caber, aromasin, HCG, etc. all included as you suggest, and my PCT is planned for 6-8 weeks and is on-hand).

I haven't pinned the test yet and was planning on running 250 just because my source is 250 mg/ml but... it occurred to me that with pinning over a gram a week that maybe the 250 mg of test cyp is actually too high? First thought was maybe just to drop the test down to a TRT level of 100 mg / week (in one or two pins a week) to reduce any possible sides. My body strongly prefers converting test to DHT vs. estrogen (as proven from labs), but with this much gear in my system I have to imagine the estrogen sides are going to start showing up stronger...

Do you think 250 mg of test cyp is too much, just enough, or too little ?

Thank you and Happy Thanksgiving!

P.S. Just ordered some Organ ST that I will be swapping out for my regular ancillaries once it gets here!

 

[gian]

4 compounds is quite a lot for a 2nd cycle brother...

What are your stats and goals? Personally I would run test & deca at the same dose

 

[DylanGemelli]

hey bro, nice cycle plan LOL... 250 is completely fine on this cycle.. its plenty... i honestly like to keep my test and deca equal... you could go 600 on the primo and do 350/350 with test and deca but you can still go with your original plan as well and run 400 deca and 250 test... either way is fine...

when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…Organ ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.





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nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
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mk-2866 25 mg day (ONLY 4 WEEKS)
gw-501516 20 mg day