Thank you guys for the warm welcome. I'm 37, 6'2", about 255 lbs. I don't habe any experience with anabolics, besides DHEA. I think the cause of my problems is digestive, i've had lower abdominal comaints since i was a boy, appendicitis, inguinal hernia, pelvic pain. I had many other problens thay were reversed when i began treating myself for hypothyroidism, hence my feeling about doctors. Anyways i think my compromised digestion, and severe pelvic dysfunction, is behind my low testosterone. It's been quite frustrating to rebuild abdominopelvic muscle, and that is why i am lookijg to learn more at this poijt, and also because i'm getting older and want to attain a good physical condition now to protect me in my later years. Thanks again for the welcome.