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I would also like to add that a certain amount of Estrogen is needed for growth and that by using Aromasin and lowering your Estrogen significantly you maybe hindering gains.
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I workout Mon thru Thursday. About 1.5 hours to 2 hours each day. That seems to be optimal for my body. I work on the weekends. Food schedule is 3 to 4 larger meals a day. 5 to 6 meals don't work to good on me. I don't track macros on a bulk I eat when I'm hungry. I track in my cuts. Like I said it could very well be me and my body. I'm going to change my dosing today for this week and see how that goes.Pharma Lady said:I would also like to add that a certain amount of Estrogen is needed for growth and that by using Aromasin and lowering your Estrogen significantly you maybe hindering gains.
Naes said:I workout Mon thru Thursday. About 1.5 hours to 2 hours each day. That seems to be optimal for my body. I work on the weekends. Food schedule is 3 to 4 larger meals a day. 5 to 6 meals don't work to good on me. I don't track macros on a bulk I eat when I'm hungry. I track in my cuts. Like I said it could very well be me and my body. I'm going to change my dosing today for this week and see how that goes.Pharma Lady said:I would also like to add that a certain amount of Estrogen is needed for growth and that by using Aromasin and lowering your Estrogen significantly you maybe hindering gains.
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True but if my caloric intake is the same between the both then it won't matter how many times I eat. I don't track macros now because I can look at my meals and tell if I'm getting enough. I can also tell how my body is responding. I probably could eat a little more but why should I if I'm growing with what I eat. I've done the shoving my face with food until I was miserable. In the chase of gains I'm gaining just the same now with less meals. Just more caloric dense. I eat a lot of chicken, rice, potatoes, pastas, beef. I'll tell you what. Tell me how y'all want me to eat and dose the dbol and train this week and I'll do it and report back with how my body reponded to it. And btw I'm not mad or anything.Pharma Lady said:Naes said:I workout Mon thru Thursday. About 1.5 hours to 2 hours each day. That seems to be optimal for my body. I work on the weekends. Food schedule is 3 to 4 larger meals a day. 5 to 6 meals don't work to good on me. I don't track macros on a bulk I eat when I'm hungry. I track in my cuts. Like I said it could very well be me and my body. I'm going to change my dosing today for this week and see how that goes.Pharma Lady said:I would also like to add that a certain amount of Estrogen is needed for growth and that by using Aromasin and lowering your Estrogen significantly you maybe hindering gains.
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If steroids = construction workers and food = bricks, then if the construction workers dont have enough bricks they cannot build house.
What is content of your 3 to 4 meals? ideally to gain muscle size does require more food, even if its hard to eat extra meals just start off with a few extra small meals per day.
Naes said:True but if my caloric intake is the same between the both then it won't matter how many times I eat. I don't track macros now because I can look at my meals and tell if I'm getting enough. I can also tell how my body is responding. I probably could eat a little more but why should I if I'm growing with what I eat. I've done the shoving my face with food until I was miserable. In the chase of gains I'm gaining just the same now with less meals. Just more caloric dense. I eat a lot of chicken, rice, potatoes, pastas, beef. I'll tell you what. Tell me how y'all want me to eat and dose the dbol and train this week and I'll do it and report back with how my body reponded to it. And btw I'm not mad or anything.Pharma Lady said:Naes said:I workout Mon thru Thursday. About 1.5 hours to 2 hours each day. That seems to be optimal for my body. I work on the weekends. Food schedule is 3 to 4 larger meals a day. 5 to 6 meals don't work to good on me. I don't track macros on a bulk I eat when I'm hungry. I track in my cuts. Like I said it could very well be me and my body. I'm going to change my dosing today for this week and see how that goes.Pharma Lady said:I would also like to add that a certain amount of Estrogen is needed for growth and that by using Aromasin and lowering your Estrogen significantly you maybe hindering gains.
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If steroids = construction workers and food = bricks, then if the construction workers dont have enough bricks they cannot build house.
What is content of your 3 to 4 meals? ideally to gain muscle size does require more food, even if its hard to eat extra meals just start off with a few extra small meals per day.
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No I'm not offended by no means. I'm open to suggestions.Pharma Lady said:Naes said:True but if my caloric intake is the same between the both then it won't matter how many times I eat. I don't track macros now because I can look at my meals and tell if I'm getting enough. I can also tell how my body is responding. I probably could eat a little more but why should I if I'm growing with what I eat. I've done the shoving my face with food until I was miserable. In the chase of gains I'm gaining just the same now with less meals. Just more caloric dense. I eat a lot of chicken, rice, potatoes, pastas, beef. I'll tell you what. Tell me how y'all want me to eat and dose the dbol and train this week and I'll do it and report back with how my body reponded to it. And btw I'm not mad or anything.Pharma Lady said:"Naes" said:I workout Mon thru Thursday. About 1.5 hours to 2 hours each day. That seems to be optimal for my body. I work on the weekends. Food schedule is 3 to 4 larger meals a day. 5 to 6 meals don't work to good on me. I don't track macros on a bulk I eat when I'm hungry. I track in my cuts. Like I said it could very well be me and my body. I'm going to change my dosing today for this week and see how that goes."Pharma Lady" said:I would also like to add that a certain amount of Estrogen is needed for growth and that by using Aromasin and lowering your Estrogen significantly you maybe hindering gains.
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If steroids = construction workers and food = bricks, then if the construction workers dont have enough bricks they cannot build house.
What is content of your 3 to 4 meals? ideally to gain muscle size does require more food, even if its hard to eat extra meals just start off with a few extra small meals per day.
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Im sorry if me offering help/suggestions offends you, you can do as you please but i will always stand by the quality of my products.
I'm not downing your products. Im just saying I'm not responding to the product yet. Whether it be timing with me, dosage or what I just don't know right yet.Pharma Lady said:Naes said:True but if my caloric intake is the same between the both then it won't matter how many times I eat. I don't track macros now because I can look at my meals and tell if I'm getting enough. I can also tell how my body is responding. I probably could eat a little more but why should I if I'm growing with what I eat. I've done the shoving my face with food until I was miserable. In the chase of gains I'm gaining just the same now with less meals. Just more caloric dense. I eat a lot of chicken, rice, potatoes, pastas, beef. I'll tell you what. Tell me how y'all want me to eat and dose the dbol and train this week and I'll do it and report back with how my body reponded to it. And btw I'm not mad or anything.Pharma Lady said:"Naes" said:I workout Mon thru Thursday. About 1.5 hours to 2 hours each day. That seems to be optimal for my body. I work on the weekends. Food schedule is 3 to 4 larger meals a day. 5 to 6 meals don't work to good on me. I don't track macros on a bulk I eat when I'm hungry. I track in my cuts. Like I said it could very well be me and my body. I'm going to change my dosing today for this week and see how that goes."Pharma Lady" said:I would also like to add that a certain amount of Estrogen is needed for growth and that by using Aromasin and lowering your Estrogen significantly you maybe hindering gains.
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If steroids = construction workers and food = bricks, then if the construction workers dont have enough bricks they cannot build house.
What is content of your 3 to 4 meals? ideally to gain muscle size does require more food, even if its hard to eat extra meals just start off with a few extra small meals per day.
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Im sorry if me offering help/suggestions offends you, you can do as you please but i will always stand by the quality of my products.
cmb5017 said:Naes said:Ok. So I'm little over 3 weeks into my cycle. Running Test-E, Dbol, Aromison, and cycle assist. 500mg weekly of test, started at 30mg every day of dbol had to move it up to 40mg. 12.5mg of Aromison eod and of course cycle assist every day. Now having said that. I am not carrying any bloat associated with dbol. Probably could run a lot higher on dosage. Test is smooth. I do have Doms a day or two after pin on right side not left. Could be me sometimes my hand isn't smooth. Its not anything I worry about. Couldn't really tell you if the Aromison is working or not but I take it. I don't feel any stronger. I just now this week feel the endurance and muscle recovery. I hope this is helpful. My weight is up but so is my caloric intake. I am gaining some with out the fat. But remember this is my first aas cycle. So I'm learning my body on it where as I know which PH work on me. So it's a learning process.
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Im a little concerned. 3 weeks in on 500mg of test and dbol to? U should see a significant change in your body.
Pharma Lady said:Naes said:Pharma Lady":1rvgfq5d][quote="Naes said:I workout Mon thru Thursday. About 1.5 hours to 2 hours each day. That seems to be optimal for my body. I work on the weekends. Food schedule is 3 to 4 larger meals a day. 5 to 6 meals don't work to good on me. I don't track macros on a bulk I eat when I'm hungry. I track in my cuts. Like I said it could very well be me and my body. I'm going to change my dosing today for this week and see how that goes.Pharma Lady said:I would also like to add that a certain amount of Estrogen is needed for growth and that by using Aromasin and lowering your Estrogen significantly you maybe hindering gains.
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If steroids = construction workers and food = bricks, then if the construction workers dont have enough bricks they cannot build house.
What is content of your 3 to 4 meals? ideally to gain muscle size does require more food, even if its hard to eat extra meals just start off with a few extra small meals per day.[/quote:1rvgfq5d]
True but if my caloric intake is the same between the both then it won't matter how many times I eat. I don't track macros now because I can look at my meals and tell if I'm getting enough. I can also tell how my body is responding. I probably could eat a little more but why should I if I'm growing with what I eat. I've done the shoving my face with food until I was miserable. In the chase of gains I'm gaining just the same now with less meals. Just more caloric dense. I eat a lot of chicken, rice, potatoes, pastas, beef. I'll tell you what. Tell me how y'all want me to eat and dose the dbol and train this week and I'll do it and report back with how my body reponded to it. And btw I'm not mad or anything.
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Im sorry if me offering help/suggestions offends you, you can do as you please but i will always stand by the quality of my products.
I am growing. Just not your normal dbol blow up. My growth has a lot of contributions from food. Yesterday I spread out the dosage every 3 hours to see how it goes. I was thinking 8 hour half life but that was tbol. My error. I will stop the AI this week and see what happens. Over all I have a better well being feeling. Haven't had that in years. So I feel the cycle is working.ilovebb said:Pharma Lady said:Naes said:True but if my caloric intake is the same between the both then it won't matter how many times I eat. I don't track macros now because I can look at my meals and tell if I'm getting enough. I can also tell how my body is responding. I probably could eat a little more but why should I if I'm growing with what I eat. I've done the shoving my face with food until I was miserable. In the chase of gains I'm gaining just the same now with less meals. Just more caloric dense. I eat a lot of chicken, rice, potatoes, pastas, beef. I'll tell you what. Tell me how y'all want me to eat and dose the dbol and train this week and I'll do it and report back with how my body reponded to it. And btw I'm not mad or anything.Pharma Lady said:"Naes" said:I workout Mon thru Thursday. About 1.5 hours to 2 hours each day. That seems to be optimal for my body. I work on the weekends. Food schedule is 3 to 4 larger meals a day. 5 to 6 meals don't work to good on me. I don't track macros on a bulk I eat when I'm hungry. I track in my cuts. Like I said it could very well be me and my body. I'm going to change my dosing today for this week and see how that goes."Pharma Lady" said:I would also like to add that a certain amount of Estrogen is needed for growth and that by using Aromasin and lowering your Estrogen significantly you maybe hindering gains.
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If steroids = construction workers and food = bricks, then if the construction workers dont have enough bricks they cannot build house.
What is content of your 3 to 4 meals? ideally to gain muscle size does require more food, even if its hard to eat extra meals just start off with a few extra small meals per day.
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Im sorry if me offering help/suggestions offends you, you can do as you please but i will always stand by the quality of my products.
so that means that you ARE indeed growing?
Wow no AI on Dbol? You don't think that's a little risky?ilovebb said:cmb5017 said:Naes said:Ok. So I'm little over 3 weeks into my cycle. Running Test-E, Dbol, Aromison, and cycle assist. 500mg weekly of test, started at 30mg every day of dbol had to move it up to 40mg. 12.5mg of Aromison eod and of course cycle assist every day. Now having said that. I am not carrying any bloat associated with dbol. Probably could run a lot higher on dosage. Test is smooth. I do have Doms a day or two after pin on right side not left. Could be me sometimes my hand isn't smooth. Its not anything I worry about. Couldn't really tell you if the Aromison is working or not but I take it. I don't feel any stronger. I just now this week feel the endurance and muscle recovery. I hope this is helpful. My weight is up but so is my caloric intake. I am gaining some with out the fat. But remember this is my first aas cycle. So I'm learning my body on it where as I know which PH work on me. So it's a learning process.
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Im a little concerned. 3 weeks in on 500mg of test and dbol to? U should see a significant change in your body.
not necessarily.it depends on how he responds,diet,training etc...also i would not take any asin at this stage.ONLY when needed.Aromasin is a suicidal AI..it REALLY lowers your estros and estros are needed to build muscle.too many people over estimate the need for AI/AE .they are so worried of gear sides that they dont allow themselves the time to learn how their body responds to it and jump into using stuff that i would use only if necessary.
cbbram said:Wow no AI on Dbol? You don't think that's a little risky?ilovebb said:cmb5017 said:Naes said:Ok. So I'm little over 3 weeks into my cycle. Running Test-E, Dbol, Aromison, and cycle assist. 500mg weekly of test, started at 30mg every day of dbol had to move it up to 40mg. 12.5mg of Aromison eod and of course cycle assist every day. Now having said that. I am not carrying any bloat associated with dbol. Probably could run a lot higher on dosage. Test is smooth. I do have Doms a day or two after pin on right side not left. Could be me sometimes my hand isn't smooth. Its not anything I worry about. Couldn't really tell you if the Aromison is working or not but I take it. I don't feel any stronger. I just now this week feel the endurance and muscle recovery. I hope this is helpful. My weight is up but so is my caloric intake. I am gaining some with out the fat. But remember this is my first aas cycle. So I'm learning my body on it where as I know which PH work on me. So it's a learning process.
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Im a little concerned. 3 weeks in on 500mg of test and dbol to? U should see a significant change in your body.
not necessarily.it depends on how he responds,diet,training etc...also i would not take any asin at this stage.ONLY when needed.Aromasin is a suicidal AI..it REALLY lowers your estros and estros are needed to build muscle.too many people over estimate the need for AI/AE .they are so worried of gear sides that they dont allow themselves the time to learn how their body responds to it and jump into using stuff that i would use only if necessary.
Naes said:I am growing. Just not your normal dbol blow up. My growth has a lot of contributions from food. Yesterday I spread out the dosage every 3 hours to see how it goes. I was thinking 8 hour half life but that was tbol. My error. I will stop the AI this week and see what happens. Over all I have a better well being feeling. Haven't had that in years. So I feel the cycle is working.ilovebb said:Pharma Lady said:Naes said:True but if my caloric intake is the same between the both then it won't matter how many times I eat. I don't track macros now because I can look at my meals and tell if I'm getting enough. I can also tell how my body is responding. I probably could eat a little more but why should I if I'm growing with what I eat. I've done the shoving my face with food until I was miserable. In the chase of gains I'm gaining just the same now with less meals. Just more caloric dense. I eat a lot of chicken, rice, potatoes, pastas, beef. I'll tell you what. Tell me how y'all want me to eat and dose the dbol and train this week and I'll do it and report back with how my body reponded to it. And btw I'm not mad or anything.Pharma Lady said:"Naes" said:I workout Mon thru Thursday. About 1.5 hours to 2 hours each day. That seems to be optimal for my body. I work on the weekends. Food schedule is 3 to 4 larger meals a day. 5 to 6 meals don't work to good on me. I don't track macros on a bulk I eat when I'm hungry. I track in my cuts. Like I said it could very well be me and my body. I'm going to change my dosing today for this week and see how that goes."Pharma Lady" said:I would also like to add that a certain amount of Estrogen is needed for growth and that by using Aromasin and lowering your Estrogen significantly you maybe hindering gains.
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If steroids = construction workers and food = bricks, then if the construction workers dont have enough bricks they cannot build house.
What is content of your 3 to 4 meals? ideally to gain muscle size does require more food, even if its hard to eat extra meals just start off with a few extra small meals per day.
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Im sorry if me offering help/suggestions offends you, you can do as you please but i will always stand by the quality of my products.
so that means that you ARE indeed growing?
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cbbram said:Wow no AI on Dbol? You don't think that's a little risky?ilovebb said:cmb5017 said:Naes said:Ok. So I'm little over 3 weeks into my cycle. Running Test-E, Dbol, Aromison, and cycle assist. 500mg weekly of test, started at 30mg every day of dbol had to move it up to 40mg. 12.5mg of Aromison eod and of course cycle assist every day. Now having said that. I am not carrying any bloat associated with dbol. Probably could run a lot higher on dosage. Test is smooth. I do have Doms a day or two after pin on right side not left. Could be me sometimes my hand isn't smooth. Its not anything I worry about. Couldn't really tell you if the Aromison is working or not but I take it. I don't feel any stronger. I just now this week feel the endurance and muscle recovery. I hope this is helpful. My weight is up but so is my caloric intake. I am gaining some with out the fat. But remember this is my first aas cycle. So I'm learning my body on it where as I know which PH work on me. So it's a learning process.
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Im a little concerned. 3 weeks in on 500mg of test and dbol to? U should see a significant change in your body.
not necessarily.it depends on how he responds,diet,training etc...also i would not take any asin at this stage.ONLY when needed.Aromasin is a suicidal AI..it REALLY lowers your estros and estros are needed to build muscle.too many people over estimate the need for AI/AE .they are so worried of gear sides that they dont allow themselves the time to learn how their body responds to it and jump into using stuff that i would use only if necessary.
DylanGemelli said:there are several problems all the way up and down here i see...
diet is key to ANYTHING you run... if you want size then you eat over maintenance... its not about stuffing your face etc... that's not what its all about... you can add clean calories up and down but when your body is in an anabolic state it requires much more food to grow rapid size, even with dbol... remember that a lot of dbol size is water as well so you end up losing a substantial amount when estrogen is more controlled... as you said, your not tracking calories at all which is not a good thing... you should keep track of what your taking in to compare to your maintenance intake, and assess... if your only eating maintenance then an expectation of huge size should not be present whatsoever... you can definitely gain size but you MUST eat to grow... as i said, it does not and SHOULD NOT consist of you stuffing your face with bull shit or until you want to puke but even 250-300 calories over maintenance makes a huge difference... thats one small meal added a day... what you decide is all dependent on your goal but the assumption if your running dbol is your after a bulk or it really makes no sense... you MUST accommodate food to coincide with anything up, down or maintaining etc... I would get an accurate gauge on what exactly your maintenance is, then accurate math on what your taking in and go from there...
as far as the aromasin dosing and use... I firmly stand by you needing it with any cycle ESPECIALLY one with this much estrogen conversion... it WILL NOT kill your gains whatsoever UNLESS you over do the dosing, then it absolutely will be a hindrance and problem... 12.5 mg eod should be plenty unless your overly estro sensitive, then you would need more... you have to assess and see your tolerance but that should be enough and it will benefit you and not hurt you in any way... there's a fine line but stay beneath it and reap the results...
I think you are just a little misguided on the diet or just don't have it dialed in... that's fine... fuck bro, im a nutritionist and I STILL have to fix and tweak it ALL THE TIME... its about getting a proper gauge, coincide it with your goals and move forward... nothing is more difficult than the diet part but you have to have a better plan with it to get the gains you are after...
Agreed. I know how to diet I just need to dial it in. Thanks for eveyones in put.DylanGemelli said:there are several problems all the way up and down here i see...
diet is key to ANYTHING you run... if you want size then you eat over maintenance... its not about stuffing your face etc... that's not what its all about... you can add clean calories up and down but when your body is in an anabolic state it requires much more food to grow rapid size, even with dbol... remember that a lot of dbol size is water as well so you end up losing a substantial amount when estrogen is more controlled... as you said, your not tracking calories at all which is not a good thing... you should keep track of what your taking in to compare to your maintenance intake, and assess... if your only eating maintenance then an expectation of huge size should not be present whatsoever... you can definitely gain size but you MUST eat to grow... as i said, it does not and SHOULD NOT consist of you stuffing your face with bull shit or until you want to puke but even 250-300 calories over maintenance makes a huge difference... thats one small meal added a day... what you decide is all dependent on your goal but the assumption if your running dbol is your after a bulk or it really makes no sense... you MUST accommodate food to coincide with anything up, down or maintaining etc... I would get an accurate gauge on what exactly your maintenance is, then accurate math on what your taking in and go from there...
as far as the aromasin dosing and use... I firmly stand by you needing it with any cycle ESPECIALLY one with this much estrogen conversion... it WILL NOT kill your gains whatsoever UNLESS you over do the dosing, then it absolutely will be a hindrance and problem... 12.5 mg eod should be plenty unless your overly estro sensitive, then you would need more... you have to assess and see your tolerance but that should be enough and it will benefit you and not hurt you in any way... there's a fine line but stay beneath it and reap the results...
I think you are just a little misguided on the diet or just don't have it dialed in... that's fine... fuck bro, im a nutritionist and I STILL have to fix and tweak it ALL THE TIME... its about getting a proper gauge, coincide it with your goals and move forward... nothing is more difficult than the diet part but you have to have a better plan with it to get the gains you are after...
Naes said:Agreed. I know how to diet I just need to dial it in. Thanks for eveyones in put.DylanGemelli said:there are several problems all the way up and down here i see...
diet is key to ANYTHING you run... if you want size then you eat over maintenance... its not about stuffing your face etc... that's not what its all about... you can add clean calories up and down but when your body is in an anabolic state it requires much more food to grow rapid size, even with dbol... remember that a lot of dbol size is water as well so you end up losing a substantial amount when estrogen is more controlled... as you said, your not tracking calories at all which is not a good thing... you should keep track of what your taking in to compare to your maintenance intake, and assess... if your only eating maintenance then an expectation of huge size should not be present whatsoever... you can definitely gain size but you MUST eat to grow... as i said, it does not and SHOULD NOT consist of you stuffing your face with bull shit or until you want to puke but even 250-300 calories over maintenance makes a huge difference... thats one small meal added a day... what you decide is all dependent on your goal but the assumption if your running dbol is your after a bulk or it really makes no sense... you MUST accommodate food to coincide with anything up, down or maintaining etc... I would get an accurate gauge on what exactly your maintenance is, then accurate math on what your taking in and go from there...
as far as the aromasin dosing and use... I firmly stand by you needing it with any cycle ESPECIALLY one with this much estrogen conversion... it WILL NOT kill your gains whatsoever UNLESS you over do the dosing, then it absolutely will be a hindrance and problem... 12.5 mg eod should be plenty unless your overly estro sensitive, then you would need more... you have to assess and see your tolerance but that should be enough and it will benefit you and not hurt you in any way... there's a fine line but stay beneath it and reap the results...
I think you are just a little misguided on the diet or just don't have it dialed in... that's fine... fuck bro, im a nutritionist and I STILL have to fix and tweak it ALL THE TIME... its about getting a proper gauge, coincide it with your goals and move forward... nothing is more difficult than the diet part but you have to have a better plan with it to get the gains you are after...
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