First cycle

[Caesar]

Hi guys! Im 27 years old 6 foot tall 183 pounds around 10% or less body fat I've been working out since I was 19. I recently bought some steroids from a family member that is involved in that kinda business. This will be my first cycle.(hence i havnt took them yet) After watching dylan gemellis videos I realized some of the stuff he gave me was too harsh for someone taking their first cycle, this is what I got, sust blend 250, nandrolone decanoate 300, test propionate 100, and trenbolone acetate 100. Trenbolone I don't plan on taking it ever everything I've read about it seems like the risks and sides are just not worth it especially not for my first cycle. He suggested I took 1 cc of deca 300 1 day on 1 day off, 1 cc sust blend 250 2 times a week. I feel like that's too much I'm thinking of maybe taking 1 cc of both deca and sust blend a week and that's it. If you could please help I don't want to put too much into my body I would like a good clean first cycle dosage that will give me minimal sides. He suggested I saved the test prop and tren ace for a cutting cycle. But as I mentioned I don't plan on taking the trenbolone at all. For protection I have dosinex and aromasin. Thank you very much!

 

[bodean30]

Smart man coming here. Good call on the tren. Why the fuck do people do this to their friends? I see this type of shit way too often. And people wonder why steroids get a bad name.

I would suggest just using the sustanon only for a first cycle. Ideally you should really be using a cypionate or enanthate instead, but sustanon will work. Stick with 350mg-500mg a week testosterone only as a first cycle and assess how your body reacts to it. If you start mixing compounds too early and start getting side effects you have no way of knowing which compound is giving you the problem. You could be sensitive to gyno and deca will give you bitch tits in no time if that's the case.

I'm glad to see you have your ancillaries in hand. One crucial thing is missing though... PCT. What's your plan for PCT?

Thanks for coming here and asking questions. We'll point you in the right direction and give you the best advice we can.

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[Caesar]

I really appreciate the response! According to him he took it his first cycle and didn't really give him too many sides other than tren cough, mood swings, sweats and insomnia. I don't just trust anyone's word even if they're family I like to do my own research to see if the info is consistent or if it's being contradicted and if they're better ways. As far as pct I have nolvadex on hand along with aromasin, I'm thinking of maybe getting an hcg would that be a good idea? Also I was thinking of running sustanon for an 8 week cycle would that be ok considering the longer esters?

 

[Caesar]

Thank you very much! I appreciate your feedback. So if used before post cycle would it then be a good idea? I figured it be a good kick start.

 

[bodean30]

You would want to run sustanon for 10-12 weeks. The reason is because of the longer esters in it. You won't even be getting any gains from it until about the 4 week mark. So if you only run it for 8 weeks you're selling yourself short. 8 week cycles work best for short esters like test ace. If you're going to shut down your HPTA get the most out of it you can.

I'm sure your buddy thinks he is fine and maybe he could deal with those side effects, but you're smart and know that everyone is different. Those are some extreme side effects and to just brush them off like that is irresponsible and stupid. I'm so glad to hear you're doing your own research first. You will be much happier and healthier by doing it the right way.

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[DylanGemelli]

hey bro... let me tell you something, your friend or family member is clueless and he is only going to drag you down right with him... a source like that which is trying to make a few bucks is going to tell you to run everything under the sun... the sources on the forum here would NEVER do such a thing because although its a busiuness, they still care about others first... you have NO BUSINESS using deca, tren or anything aside from test on a first cycle unless its sarms or peptides, which you could add... sustanon for 8 weeks is not worth it... you are wasting it... the long esters in sust are very long and it would make no sense to run it the way you are saying...

your pct is garbage as well but i will help you fix it... what are your goals from the cycle and i will give you the full layout...

 

[RickRock]

The only thing you want to use as far as steroids goes is Test for your first cycle. Don't use any other steroids. I would add in some sarms to that to enhance it. Otherwise test only is what you want. 8 weeks is too short for long esters

You also need estrogen protection on cycle, a full pct, and you never use hcg in pct. It needs used the last week's of the cycle only.

Here is what I'd recommend. Get your sarms and pct from www.sarmsx.com

1-12 sustanon 350mg per week
1-12 aromasin 12.5mg EOD
1-12 LGD 10mg per day dosed in the am
1-12 RAD140 20mg per day dosed in the am
1-12 S4 50mg per day split 25mg am and 25mg 4-6 hours later

PCT

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK2866 25mg per day
GW 20mg per day

(PM me for a price list for Biotech Labs and 10% discount)

 

[DylanGemelli]

here is a link to the pct you need followed by the layout...

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=133&search=platinum

clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day

 

[Caesar]

Man I really appreciate yalls help! My goals from the cycle is to gain some extra muscle I've been struggling to add on more muscle. enough to get me to the 200 205 pound range as well as to help me be a better athlete I currently play football not proffesionaly just a random league I got into for fun. Thanks again guys I will definitely check it ouy

 

[DylanGemelli]

Man I really appreciate yalls help! My goals from the cycle is to gain some extra muscle I've been struggling to add on more muscle. enough to get me to the 200 205 pound range as well as to help me be a better athlete I currently play football not proffesionaly just a random league I got into for fun. Thanks again guys I will definitely check it ouy

here are the links for everything you need to purchase followed by the layout... i added a few sarms to really get you more muscle that is very very clean and will get you a further enhancement on your cycle without anabolic side effects...

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=134&search=power

https://www.sarmsx.com/liquiaro-15mgs-ml-30mls

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=133&search=platinum


1-12 test cyp 350-500 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg every other day
1-12 rad140 20 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg 4-6 hours later
11-14 hcg 1000 ius week

pct 15-18


clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg da