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Feedback (Concerns about Fakes) Halfway Thru 1st Cycle (Test Cyp/Tbol)

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Hi guys. So I posted here just a couple of times here looking for guidance, and I received great advice from Dylan and others. I had the blood work done, picked a cycle, picked a source, got it ordered, started. 4 weeks into a 10 week test cycle, about done with the Tbol. Before I get into source or feedback, basic stats:

Age: 32
Height: 5'7
Weight: 175
Sport: Strongman
Cycle: 420mg test cyp/wk, 40mg Tbol/d, 25mcg HCG/wk

I'm on TRT so 220 comes from the doc, as does the HCG (that biannual thing, just so happens to be right now). I have another blood draw coming Monday, check the liver and kidney values, and check test. I'll be very curious to see where my test is. Why?...

Well I have some doubts that what I'm ingesting/injecting is legitimate, but I'm not willing to say I know for certain or that I have huge doubts because frankly I just have no idea what to expect. It is my first cycle, I was just on TRT before. And until I've had a chance to get my blood draw and maybe try a "ROIDTEST" (what do you guys think of those?), I'm not going to name the source and come off like the guy talking shit about a source before he knows for sure. But it is a UGL. If/when there turns out to be an issue, I'll contact them and hopefully they're reasonable about it.

So basically why do I have doubts? I haven't noticed anything real major, either good or bad - either size, strength or composition gains or bad side effects. I've noticed a little more vascularity, but I'm not sure that's necessarily a sign. Initially I seemed to put on a little weight, but I think it was just my natural fluctuation, as I have floated back down. My strength actually seems to be down in some lifts, particularly DL. Now it's entirely possible that I'm looking for something too dramatic, and I would understand completely if there's something off about my lifestyle that's sabotaging me like sleep, etc. I get about 6.5-7. I've improved my diet recently, and so when I say I've noticed a little more vascularity, I don't really know if that's me eating better, the drugs having an effect, or just the natural progression of my same results over time. Or just a visual trick with a pump and there's really no change. As well the HCG started same time as the cycle, and HCG is supposed to have a positive effect, so it could always be that. I know the 220 from the doc is legit, so I'm definitely at least at that base level, which was around 900. So I'll for sure see this week if at least either the injectable or the tablet is legitimate, because if either is legit, I should be higher than I've ever been, probably over the 1500 cap on the Labcorp test.

So I'm curious what you all think as far as the dose I went with, does it seem to some of you more experienced guys that I should be seeing more profound changes - granted I know you can't know how religiously I'm eating or training, just assume I'm not a lazy fuck or a completely disaster of an eater, because I'm basically between intermediate and advanced on both - or does it seem reasonable that on this cycle, it would be subtle? I know that tbol is intended to be a milder dbol substitute. And 420 isn't massive. But I thought it was enough to be unmistakable.

Anyway. Thanks.
 
Bloodwork is going to tell you. And there is an uncapped test. It's the LC-MS or something like that.
So if you are normally at 900, and it goes up, you know it isn't fake.
Tbol isn't going to spike your test results either.


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4 weeks isn't very long bro. You'll have to give it more time. That's usually when gains start about a month in. Get the bloodwork whch will tell you everything. Also, guys on TRT typically will see less results than those that cycle off....so keep that in mind. Especially when you are running higher TRT dose which you are at 220mg per week. That's out of the normal physiological range so your myostatin levels probably remain elevated on that so gains will come harder. You need to stay in normal range and keep myostatin at base.ine to get the most out of your cycles
 
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