Estrogen E2

[Dangans]

I have not started any tesosterone yet I have never did any anabolics
I'm 43 and E2 test can back 13.5 low normal I am wondering if I blast 600mg test c a week for 12 weeks will I need an AI with the blast since my E2 is low?

 

[SpikedEggnog]

I have not started any tesosterone yet I have never did any anabolics
I'm 43 and E2 test can back 13.5 low normal I am wondering if I blast 600mg test c a week for 12 weeks will I need an AI with the blast since my E2 is low?

what do you mean if you Blast? are you on TRT? But Nobody can answer that question for you man. The question of do you NEED an AI is the wrong question, its more like SHOULD i run an AI. and should you? YES at 600mg YES. The only thing would be to suggest running Aromasin to be safe rather then sorry, but if you want to risk not running it while you do 600mg, which is high dose, then you are able to do whatever you want no one can stop you. Just know that 600mg is pretty high and can defnitely cause issues with Estro, like gyno. I would start with a lower dose then 600mg though, 600mg is overboard in my opinion since you have never done TEST before. Use a lower dose - try 250mg and see how you react. you can always adjust dosages later or try small doses of other stuff once you get 250mg as your base, but theres no reason to just slam 600mg cold turkey. it seems people expect the more TEST they inject the more GAINS they will make, and thats NOT true dude, MORE is not always BETTER. the thing is, TEST is foreign to your body, you have never done it before, so you would probably react fairly well to a low dose, so using 600mg right off the bat is just asking for more sides.

 

[Dangans]

I am not on TRT but my total test levels came back at 441 and my free test is 9.5. I have all the symptoms of low T. Everyone I spoke to says I should blast sat my receptors are fresh?

 

[SpikedEggnog]

I am not on TRT but my total test levels came back at 441 and my free test is 9.5. I have all the symptoms of low T. Everyone I spoke to says I should blast sat my receptors are fresh?

dude, your TEST is fine. lets put it this way, my TEST was 300 and my free T i believe was around 5.3 or so. that was at 27. i never did Roids or anything, just had hormone problems for some reason. Now do you understand? Your TEST at your age is great dude. receptors are fresh, meaning you have no done AAS before, so you will react well to AAS. that is why i suggested starting Low TEST and assess from there - there is no reason to jump the gun, and your TEST is already decent level. Blast is a term used for people on TRT, Blast and Cruise. cruise is low dose test year round and blast is basically your cycle with higher doses, after cycle you go back to cruise.

you need to also consider your Diet and Training. if either one is not on point there is no point running TEST expecting to get jacked, thats not how it works.

how long you been working out?

how is your Diet? Post up your DIET for critique on here, then we can go from there.

 

[Dangans]

Been training for 3 years clean eating 90% of the time 5' 10" 200lbs protein is 200g carbs 270g fats 80

 

[middle aged fat guy]

I have not started any tesosterone yet I have never did any anabolics
I'm 43 and E2 test can back 13.5 low normal I am wondering if I blast 600mg test c a week for 12 weeks will I need an AI with the blast since my E2 is low?

OK - everyone will react differently with regards to aromatase

I'm a couple of years younger than you, and have had seriously shitty bloodwork for years. I recently was able to do a similar dose of test E for a few short weeks and here was what happened:

Total Test went to exactly double the range.
Free Test went to exactly double the range.
E2 rose to around TRIPLE the high end of normal range.

*ALL* values were previously very low. (For reference I'm 6'3' , 210 and I'd guess hovering around 8% BF)

When I finally get my hands on some decent gear I plan to try 200mg with 1.5mg adex and make adjustments from there.

 

[Dangans]

I have not started any tesosterone yet I have never did any anabolics
I'm 43 and E2 test can back 13.5 low normal I am wondering if I blast 600mg test c a week for 12 weeks will I need an AI with the blast since my E2 is low?

OK - everyone will react differently with regards to aromatase

I'm a couple of years younger than you, and have had seriously shitty bloodwork for years. I recently was able to do a similar dose of test E for a few short weeks and here was what happened:

Total Test went to exactly double the range.
Free Test went to exactly double the range.
E2 rose to around TRIPLE the high end of normal range.

*ALL* values were previously very low. (For reference I'm 6"3' , 210 and I'd guess hovering around 8% BF)

When I finally get my hands on some decent gear I plan to try 200mg with 1.5mg adex and make adjustments from there.

I am glad that I brought this up. I also thought it would be better to start low and then adjust. I was told by experience AAS users to run 500-600mg a week first then cruise. The low dose seems to be the better route and adjust

 

[Dangans]

I am not on TRT but my total test levels came back at 441 and my free test is 9.5. I have all the symptoms of low T. Everyone I spoke to says I should blast sat my receptors are fresh?

dude, your TEST is fine. lets put it this way, my TEST was 300 and my free T i believe was around 5.3 or so. that was at 27. i never did Roids or anything, just had hormone problems for some reason. Now do you understand? Your TEST at your age is great dude. receptors are fresh, meaning you have no done AAS before, so you will react well to AAS. that is why i suggested starting Low TEST and assess from there - there is no reason to jump the gun, and your TEST is already decent level. Blast is a term used for people on TRT, Blast and Cruise. cruise is low dose test year round and blast is basically your cycle with higher doses, after cycle you go back to cruise.

you need to also consider your Diet and Training. if either one is not on point there is no point running TEST expecting to get jacked, thats not how it works.

how long you been working out?

how is your Diet? Post up your DIET for critique on here, then we can go from there.

Would you run AI with 250mg of test a week?

 

[middle aged fat guy]

I have not started any tesosterone yet I have never did any anabolics
I'm 43 and E2 test can back 13.5 low normal I am wondering if I blast 600mg test c a week for 12 weeks will I need an AI with the blast since my E2 is low?

OK - everyone will react differently with regards to aromatase

I'm a couple of years younger than you, and have had seriously shitty bloodwork for years. I recently was able to do a similar dose of test E for a few short weeks and here was what happened:

Total Test went to exactly double the range.
Free Test went to exactly double the range.
E2 rose to around TRIPLE the high end of normal range.

*ALL* values were previously very low. (For reference I'm 6"3' , 210 and I'd guess hovering around 8% BF)

When I finally get my hands on some decent gear I plan to try 200mg with 1.5mg adex and make adjustments from there.

I am glad that I brought this up. I also thought it would be better to start low and then adjust. I was told by experience AAS users to run 500-600mg a week first then cruise. The low dose seems to be the better route and adjust

Some guys will point out that you would make killer gains being your first cycle, which might be true.

My take (for me personally), is that I would rather be at a constant healthy level that doesn't fluctuate anymore. It was a different story when I was in my 20's though.

Also, the chance of E2 conversion rises as men age.. some guys in their 20's have had E2 issues on 200mg while achieving a TT in the 600's. Everyone is different though.

 

[Dangans]

I have not started any tesosterone yet I have never did any anabolics
I'm 43 and E2 test can back 13.5 low normal I am wondering if I blast 600mg test c a week for 12 weeks will I need an AI with the blast since my E2 is low?

OK - everyone will react differently with regards to aromatase

I'm a couple of years younger than you, and have had seriously shitty bloodwork for years. I recently was able to do a similar dose of test E for a few short weeks and here was what happened:

Total Test went to exactly double the range.
Free Test went to exactly double the range.
E2 rose to around TRIPLE the high end of normal range.

*ALL* values were previously very low. (For reference I'm 6"3' , 210 and I'd guess hovering around 8% BF)

When I finally get my hands on some decent gear I plan to try 200mg with 1.5mg adex and make adjustments from there.

I am glad that I brought this up. I also thought it would be better to start low and then adjust. I was told by experience AAS users to run 500-600mg a week first then cruise. The low dose seems to be the better route and adjust

Some guys will point out that you would make killer gains being your first cycle, which might be true.

My take (for me personally), is that I would rather be at a constant healthy level that doesn't fluctuate anymore. It was a different story when I was in my 20's though.

Also, the chance of E2 conversion rises as men age.. some guys in their 20's have had E2 issues on 200mg while achieving a TT in the 600's. Everyone is different though.

I think I am going to pin 200-250 a week to see how my body reacts get bloods done and then go from there?

 

[middle aged fat guy]

That's what I would do personally. It depends on what your goals are.. If you plan on running cycles then there are other people here who would be far more knowledgeable than myself that might help you though.

 

[Dangans]

That's what I would do personally. It depends on what your goals are.. If you plan on running cycles then there are other people here who would be far more knowledgeable than myself that might help you though.

Thx man appreciate it

 

[SpikedEggnog]

I am not on TRT but my total test levels came back at 441 and my free test is 9.5. I have all the symptoms of low T. Everyone I spoke to says I should blast sat my receptors are fresh?

dude, your TEST is fine. lets put it this way, my TEST was 300 and my free T i believe was around 5.3 or so. that was at 27. i never did Roids or anything, just had hormone problems for some reason. Now do you understand? Your TEST at your age is great dude. receptors are fresh, meaning you have no done AAS before, so you will react well to AAS. that is why i suggested starting Low TEST and assess from there - there is no reason to jump the gun, and your TEST is already decent level. Blast is a term used for people on TRT, Blast and Cruise. cruise is low dose test year round and blast is basically your cycle with higher doses, after cycle you go back to cruise.

you need to also consider your Diet and Training. if either one is not on point there is no point running TEST expecting to get jacked, thats not how it works.

how long you been working out?

how is your Diet? Post up your DIET for critique on here, then we can go from there.

Would you run AI with 250mg of test a week?

are you prone to gyno? then run it. if you dont know then better get some before you do anything. but in my opinion, i wouldnt recommend AAS, youve only been lifting 3 years - you really need to work on gaining more muscle and getting some fat off, i am guessing your BF% is a little high - and your diet needs to be refined - 200 prot with 270 carb and 80 fat is a weird split. I would cut down the fat and up the protein intake and start moving heavy weights. something that may be better for you is SARMS, you can ask Dylan or RickRock about SARMS. they have anabolic effects with little to no side effects.

 

[Dangans]

I am not on TRT but my total test levels came back at 441 and my free test is 9.5. I have all the symptoms of low T. Everyone I spoke to says I should blast sat my receptors are fresh?

dude, your TEST is fine. lets put it this way, my TEST was 300 and my free T i believe was around 5.3 or so. that was at 27. i never did Roids or anything, just had hormone problems for some reason. Now do you understand? Your TEST at your age is great dude. receptors are fresh, meaning you have no done AAS before, so you will react well to AAS. that is why i suggested starting Low TEST and assess from there - there is no reason to jump the gun, and your TEST is already decent level. Blast is a term used for people on TRT, Blast and Cruise. cruise is low dose test year round and blast is basically your cycle with higher doses, after cycle you go back to cruise.

you need to also consider your Diet and Training. if either one is not on point there is no point running TEST expecting to get jacked, thats not how it works.

how long you been working out?

how is your Diet? Post up your DIET for critique on here, then we can go from there.

Would you run AI with 250mg of test a week?

are you prone to gyno? then run it. if you dont know then better get some before you do anything. but in my opinion, i wouldnt recommend AAS, youve only been lifting 3 years - you really need to work on gaining more muscle and getting some fat off, i am guessing your BF% is a little high - and your diet needs to be refined - 200 prot with 270 carb and 80 fat is a weird split. I would cut down the fat and up the protein intake and start moving heavy weights. something that may be better for you is SARMS, you can ask Dylan or RickRock about SARMS. they have anabolic effects with little to no side effects.

I am not prone to gyno. My BF % is around 18%. I am starting to cut with my macros @ 225 protein 230carbs 55fats. I really count macros not calories as my body responds to higher fat. some strange reason. My dr said the my test levels are low for my age and need to get them up to 600-700 range.

 

[SpikedEggnog]

I am not on TRT but my total test levels came back at 441 and my free test is 9.5. I have all the symptoms of low T. Everyone I spoke to says I should blast sat my receptors are fresh?

dude, your TEST is fine. lets put it this way, my TEST was 300 and my free T i believe was around 5.3 or so. that was at 27. i never did Roids or anything, just had hormone problems for some reason. Now do you understand? Your TEST at your age is great dude. receptors are fresh, meaning you have no done AAS before, so you will react well to AAS. that is why i suggested starting Low TEST and assess from there - there is no reason to jump the gun, and your TEST is already decent level. Blast is a term used for people on TRT, Blast and Cruise. cruise is low dose test year round and blast is basically your cycle with higher doses, after cycle you go back to cruise.

you need to also consider your Diet and Training. if either one is not on point there is no point running TEST expecting to get jacked, thats not how it works.

how long you been working out?

how is your Diet? Post up your DIET for critique on here, then we can go from there.

Would you run AI with 250mg of test a week?

are you prone to gyno? then run it. if you dont know then better get some before you do anything. but in my opinion, i wouldnt recommend AAS, youve only been lifting 3 years - you really need to work on gaining more muscle and getting some fat off, i am guessing your BF% is a little high - and your diet needs to be refined - 200 prot with 270 carb and 80 fat is a weird split. I would cut down the fat and up the protein intake and start moving heavy weights. something that may be better for you is SARMS, you can ask Dylan or RickRock about SARMS. they have anabolic effects with little to no side effects.

I am not prone to gyno. My BF % is around 18%. I am starting to cut with my macros @ 225 protein 230carbs 55fats. I really count macros not calories as my body responds to higher fat. some strange reason. My dr said the my test levels are low for my age and need to get them up to 600-700 range.

yeah your BF% is too high right now, i wouldnt run TEST, your Test levels are fine dude...Doc said 700 TEST at age 43?? Not in my opinion, but ok... you can listen to the doctor if you want, but they dont know everything. and i already told you my TEST was 300 and my free test was half of yours - so if you still want to listen to your doctor then go ahead..

 

[Dangans]

I am not on TRT but my total test levels came back at 441 and my free test is 9.5. I have all the symptoms of low T. Everyone I spoke to says I should blast sat my receptors are fresh?

dude, your TEST is fine. lets put it this way, my TEST was 300 and my free T i believe was around 5.3 or so. that was at 27. i never did Roids or anything, just had hormone problems for some reason. Now do you understand? Your TEST at your age is great dude. receptors are fresh, meaning you have no done AAS before, so you will react well to AAS. that is why i suggested starting Low TEST and assess from there - there is no reason to jump the gun, and your TEST is already decent level. Blast is a term used for people on TRT, Blast and Cruise. cruise is low dose test year round and blast is basically your cycle with higher doses, after cycle you go back to cruise.

you need to also consider your Diet and Training. if either one is not on point there is no point running TEST expecting to get jacked, thats not how it works.

how long you been working out?

how is your Diet? Post up your DIET for critique on here, then we can go from there.

Would you run AI with 250mg of test a week?

are you prone to gyno? then run it. if you dont know then better get some before you do anything. but in my opinion, i wouldnt recommend AAS, youve only been lifting 3 years - you really need to work on gaining more muscle and getting some fat off, i am guessing your BF% is a little high - and your diet needs to be refined - 200 prot with 270 carb and 80 fat is a weird split. I would cut down the fat and up the protein intake and start moving heavy weights. something that may be better for you is SARMS, you can ask Dylan or RickRock about SARMS. they have anabolic effects with little to no side effects.

I am not prone to gyno. My BF % is around 18%. I am starting to cut with my macros @ 225 protein 230carbs 55fats. I really count macros not calories as my body responds to higher fat. some strange reason. My dr said the my test levels are low for my age and need to get them up to 600-700 range.

yeah your BF% is too high right now, i wouldnt run TEST, your Test levels are fine dude...Doc said 700 TEST at age 43?? Not in my opinion, but ok... you can listen to the doctor if you want, but they dont know everything. and i already told you my TEST was 300 and my free test was half of yours - so if you still want to listen to your doctor then go ahead..

Thanks for you input.