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rewspen1

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Hi Dylan
I've recently found you on YouTube and the I'm hooked on your channel! Just watching video after video and you seem a really intelligent guy and give honest, well informed information. I hope you don't mind me mailing you direct? It's just the forums are so full of jumped up idiots with bad ideas, I really don't know who to trust. Ok a quick look into my background, I'm 39, 6 foot , 183 lbs and around 18%bf( I'm working on that to bring it down) I've trained since I was young and did several cycles of test and deca which packed on quite a lot of size and strength but also blew me up with water and I lost most of it when coming off, I didn't research enough so probably my pct was poor, plus diet etc. I hurt my shoulder badly and had several years out but now I'm back now training hard, eating well, resting and doing things right! Think it's my age, I feel wiser now and don't want to injure myself again. Im looking to build lean muscle now, I dont want the big bloated look anymore so here's my few questions if you don't mind?
1. I'm just starting a 12 week cycle of 500mg Test e pw(2 pins Mon thur) & 200mg Tren e (Mon thur) firstly does that sound ok?
2. I'm going to run aromasin at 10mg eod, do I continue that right through to the end of my pct aswell? (Can't get 25mg tabs)
3. My pct will start 2 weeks after my last pin and consist of Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Mk-2866 25mg ed
Gw- 501/516 20mg ed
This is my biggest concern as back in the day I really got shut down after a cycle, and my testicular atrophy was pretty bad, but I think I only ran nolva, I also had a little gyno once but I was pumping daft amounts of test in like 1000mg +, so that was probably why.
If you have any wise words on anything I've missed I would really appreciate that.
Ps. Keep the video's coming I'm learning heaps!
 

DylanGemelli

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1. no, your body fat needs to come down quite a bit before i would advise you steroid use

so for the rest of your questions, you should not be using steroids whatsoever in your current condition... i will give you the proper pct you need to run so you know for the future...

when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well…Organ ST plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on...Organ ST helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.





clomid 50/50/50/25/25/25
nolva 40/40/40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod (adjust accordingly)
ORGAN ST https://www.dganutrition.com/cycle-support/organ-st
mk-2866 25 mg day (ONLY 4 WEEKS)
gw-501516 20 mg day
 

rewspen1

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Hi Dylan, firstly thanks for posting this for me and after reading that extensive pct, I now see where I went wrong in the past! And 6 weeks not 4 is news to me aswell. I only need to get the Organ st then I'm fully stocked and prepared. I just need to work on my bf now :(
I've read that caber at .5 ed is good for the tren? Do you agree? And lastly how much Organ st do I take and for how long?
 

rewspen1

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I'm running 200mg pw Tren e. Just a heads up, I've tried buy the Organ ST through amazon and it says it can't deliver to the Uk? Not sure if you realised I was British?
 
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