bio availability of Test

[middle aged fat guy]

Hi guys this is almost certainly a silly question:

Can solvents and/or any other materials used when making gear affect the bio availability of the Testosterone?

I'm guessing no, but I wanted to rule it out as a problem I'm having with legitimate overpriced test I have been prescribed. Honestly I would have been better off taking my chances buying shit for TRT from any gym rather than this clinic.

Thanks in advance

 

[SpikedEggnog]

Hi guys this is almost certainly a silly question:

Can solvents and/or any other materials used when making gear affect the bio availability of the Testosterone?

I'm guessing no, but I wanted to rule it out as a problem I'm having with legitimate overpriced test I have been prescribed. Honestly I would have been better off taking my chances buying shit for TRT from any gym rather than this clinic.

Thanks in advance

are you talking about TRT pharmacy TEST?

as far as the bioavailability, i dont know, we have to wait and see what some of the brewers on here say..

 

[middle aged fat guy]

Hi guys this is almost certainly a silly question:

Can solvents and/or any other materials used when making gear affect the bio availability of the Testosterone?

I'm guessing no, but I wanted to rule it out as a problem I'm having with legitimate overpriced test I have been prescribed. Honestly I would have been better off taking my chances buying shit for TRT from any gym rather than this clinic.

Thanks in advance

are you talking about TRT pharmacy TEST?

as far as the bioavailability, i dont know, we have to wait and see what some of the brewers on here say..

yes, but I'm begging to have serious doubts about the ethics of this particular clinic... I recently had a sample tested which was supposed to be test E that ended up being a woefully under dosed Test prop...

Not happy.

 

[SpikedEggnog]

[quote="middle aged fat guy":3kwkt3em]Hi guys this is almost certainly a silly question:

Can solvents and/or any other materials used when making gear affect the bio availability of the Testosterone?

I'm guessing no, but I wanted to rule it out as a problem I'm having with legitimate overpriced test I have been prescribed. Honestly I would have been better off taking my chances buying shit for TRT from any gym rather than this clinic.

Thanks in advance

are you talking about TRT pharmacy TEST?

as far as the bioavailability, i dont know, we have to wait and see what some of the brewers on here say..

yes, but I'm begging to have serious doubts about the ethics of this particular clinic... I recently had a sample tested which was supposed to be test E that ended up being a woefully under dosed Test prop...

Not happy.[/quote:3kwkt3em]

what the mess? your TEST E was actually underdosed TEST PROP? Lol...geez..

 

[middle aged fat guy]

yeah tell me about it.. I am having another batch analyzed that is also supposed to be Test E which I have a gut feeling might be underdosed Cypionate.

The reason I wonder about the bio availability is that I was taking enough of the underdosed prop to feel it kick in but it never did. It felt like it was short circuiting somehow. I know that sounds strange, but there's really no other way to describe it.

I'm now pinning the batch I'm currently getting analyzed and I'm not gaining any functional body weight.. I'm going to give it a couple more weeks and get bloods done yet again.

The thing that shits me is I got hold of a small amount of Vet grade gear (that was around 20 years old lol) from a friend and I felt awesome and bloodwork reflected that it was g2g - so I can eliminate the possibility that I'm somehow hyper metabolizing the test..

 

[RickRock]

The carrier oil should have no effect on bioavailability whatsoever. For your situation, I would strongly suggest getting away from that clinic and use a different source for your TRT needs. I'm assuming this is one of those on,ine places you can order your own stuff from that they ship the scripts with. I've heard a lot of bad things about those places, from ridiculous prices to questionable products. I would just go through your doc if you want a script, or just go the self administered route and do your own like I do

 

[drb_iac]

Man..didnt you report that problem once before? That is ridiculous. As for ugl test the carrier has no bearing on the bio. As long as the carrier is something that the human body can digest. So for instance if I made gear in petroluem, maybe light motor oil...and it can esaily be done. No wait let me try this approach. You know in the drugstore that they sell mineral oil? It is a super refined petroleum oil that is used as a laxative. When this oil enters the stomach the body cannot do anything with it, so it slides right out of your ass just exactly as it went down your pie hole. It is so slippery that any stuff clogged in there comes sliding on out too. Now if I took that mineral oil and made gear then after injection my body would remove the entire contents. Bio = 0%. So many edible oils have been used in big pharm, but usually seasame or cottonseed. This is simply because they do not get rancid over years. Today the tren in ugl was grapeseed oil and the very light clear oils. As a matter of fact most brewers have switched only recently to mct oil. There are other chemical carriers that can be used but these are for high concentration gears, such as 400mg and above.

I think your problem is some very unethical brewer.

 

[PHURIOUS]

yeah tell me about it.. I am having another batch analyzed that is also supposed to be Test E which I have a gut feeling might be underdosed Cypionate.

The reason I wonder about the bio availability is that I was taking enough of the underdosed prop to feel it kick in but it never did. It felt like it was short circuiting somehow. I know that sounds strange, but there's really no other way to describe it.

I'm now pinning the batch I'm currently getting analyzed and I'm not gaining any functional body weight.. I'm going to give it a couple more weeks and get bloods done yet again.

The thing that shits me is I got hold of a small amount of Vet grade gear (that was around 20 years old lol) from a friend and I felt awesome and bloodwork reflected that it was g2g - so I can eliminate the possibility that I'm somehow hyper metabolizing the test..

Well one thing i see here is you cant base weight gain as a sign your test is legit. Weight gain comes from training and eating properly. Not the testosterone. Its just a building block for growth. If there is no cement nothing will happen.


PHURIOUS PHARMA

 

[PHURIOUS]

As far as the gear. Could be your "clinic" is buying in bulk from a shady or just shitty brewer selling his shit as gold.


PHURIOUS PHARMA

 

[middle aged fat guy]

The carrier oil should have no effect on bioavailability whatsoever. For your situation, I would strongly suggest getting away from that clinic and use a different source for your TRT needs. I'm assuming this is one of those on,ine places you can order your own stuff from that they ship the scripts with. I've heard a lot of bad things about those places, from ridiculous prices to questionable products. I would just go through your doc if you want a script, or just go the self administered route and do your own like I do

Hi bro, no the clinic isn't online, it's a brick and mortar shop in AU.

I had bloods done on the initial consult but he hasn't requested any follow ups and it's become obvious as to why.

I won't be buying any more from them, but I'm in pretty deep with what I have purchased, which is why I'm getting the quantifications done.

I shouldn't say much more than that at this stage, but if it doesn't get sorted the whole world is going to know about their bullshit - I can guarantee that.

Good call with the GP.. it's hard to find a willing doctor around here though

 

[middle aged fat guy]

Man..didnt you report that problem once before? That is ridiculous. As for ugl test the carrier has no bearing on the bio. As long as the carrier is something that the human body can digest. So for instance if I made gear in petroluem, maybe light motor oil...and it can esaily be done. No wait let me try this approach. You know in the drugstore that they sell mineral oil? It is a super refined petroleum oil that is used as a laxative. When this oil enters the stomach the body cannot do anything with it, so it slides right out of your ass just exactly as it went down your pie hole. It is so slippery that any stuff clogged in there comes sliding on out too. Now if I took that mineral oil and made gear then after injection my body would remove the entire contents. Bio = 0%. So many edible oils have been used in big pharm, but usually seasame or cottonseed. This is simply because they do not get rancid over years. Today the tren in ugl was grapeseed oil and the very light clear oils. As a matter of fact most brewers have switched only recently to mct oil. There are other chemical carriers that can be used but these are for high concentration gears, such as 400mg and above.

I think your problem is some very unethical brewer.

Thanks brother, yeah it's the same clinic with different batches of bunk I've received.

I didn't realize it at the time, but I've done some quick research on those guys and they have been in all sorts of trouble for different shit, so I think
it's safe to call this retail product UGL.. actually most UGL wouldn't be dosed this low.

I should have known something was up when I saw a waiting room full of skinny fat guys instead of gorillas.

I had the Vet grade sample analyzed also, and the guy at the lab said the BB/BA ratio was the exact opposite to the UGL. ie. there was next to no BA in the UGL. It also tested positive for grape seed oil.

The guy at the lab is pretty cool, which is fortunate. He's been ripped off by a TRT clinic also - so he wants to see these guys go down. I just have to be careful how I go about things and not alert them to the information I'm gathering at the moment.

The weird thing about this 'gear' is that I'm horny as hell despite it having trashed my T levels. I had bloods that show pretty much fuck all T in the blood, yet I'm chasing my mrs around the house constantly. I don't know what the fuck he's put in it.

Also, thanks for the analogy with the oils etc, I get where you're coming from with that

 

[middle aged fat guy]

yeah tell me about it.. I am having another batch analyzed that is also supposed to be Test E which I have a gut feeling might be underdosed Cypionate.

The reason I wonder about the bio availability is that I was taking enough of the underdosed prop to feel it kick in but it never did. It felt like it was short circuiting somehow. I know that sounds strange, but there's really no other way to describe it.

I'm now pinning the batch I'm currently getting analyzed and I'm not gaining any functional body weight.. I'm going to give it a couple more weeks and get bloods done yet again.

The thing that shits me is I got hold of a small amount of Vet grade gear (that was around 20 years old lol) from a friend and I felt awesome and bloodwork reflected that it was g2g - so I can eliminate the possibility that I'm somehow hyper metabolizing the test..

Well one thing i see here is you cant base weight gain as a sign your test is legit. Weight gain comes from training and eating properly. Not the testosterone. Its just a building block for growth. If there is no cement nothing will happen.


PHURIOUS PHARMA

Yeah man, my bad - I wasn't very clear there.

I recently switched from a legit Vet grade Test E @ 500mg (which was awesome.. I think I would be more than happy to run it forever @ 200mg if I could get more of it)

Anyway, since switching a couple of weeks ago to a supposed 1.2grams of this bunk Test E i've dropped about 8lbs and any pump I had from the Vet grade.

My diet and training has been exactly the same for 2 years, which is great - we can narrow it down to the gear and gear alone