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2nd Cycle. Look forward to advice/tips/some criticism to help this one go better

How's everyone doing? I just joined this great forum yesterday, posted and introduction explaining a little about myself, not I wanted to post what my upcoming cycle is going to be. This is my second cycle, and it will be the same as my first one:

Valhalla Test-E 250 X2WK (Mon/Fri) for 12 Weeks
PCT: Clomid 50/50/50/50

This is what I ran last time and I had great results. I gained a total of around 20lbs and I have kept a majority of it. Strength went up significantly and I have also kept that. My last pin was May 17th. I am running the same cycle again based off the fact that I am still young, I believe I can get even better results if I implement a better diet and better training regimen. I plan on eating around 4100-4250 calories a day. I am very good at eating the same foods like a robot, and it doesn't really effect me as long as I'm getting the results it motivates me, so staying on the diet doesn't bother me.

I am not competing. I have two kids and work a shit ton, I just like them GAINNNNS!

Only questions I may have for someone is running an AI. Yes I know there are 1000000 article out there about this stuff, but I want to hear some new and update suggestions from you guys. Last time I had zero issues and did not use an AI, but I had some on hand. The ONLY issue I had was around week 9/10 I started to develop very very small knots behind my nipples, an every now and again they were a little sensitive. This never got worse, and as soon as I started my PCT, this cleared up within a week. I am wondering if this time I should run an AI, A-dex or Aromasin. I know I have ready that some people need it or don't need it. Did me getting those knots and sensitive nipples mean I should have been running an AI the entire time? Should I have started once I felt that? I read soooo many contradicting things saying that using an AI can help with several things regardless if your sides appear, or some people say running an AI can slow down your progress if it's not needed.

I have only been on the forum for a day, but stayed up last night with a sick kid and read about 6 hours worth of shit on this site. There are plenty of resources I'm pretty pumped about and can't wait to continue to try peoples products. I am hoping to get some blood work done this week prior to my first pin and I will make sure I update the thread with all that information when possible.

I'm stoked about running this cycle, and think my expanded knowledge on dieting and training is going to yield even better results than my previous one. The only other thing I need to do now is find a solid source for AI's and PCT's that is domestic and not from overseas and expensive as hell. I didn't realize how expensive A-dex and Aromasin can be! I'm sure I am going to find everything I need right here!


Thanks for reading and please HIT ME WITH THE CRITICISM and help me learn!
 
Welcome to the forum. Plenty of more educated guys out there than me that will be here to help but just a few things that stick out to me in the meantime:

Your PCT is incomplete. This is the recommended PCT.

clomid 50/25/25/25
nolva 40/40/20/20
asin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day

And most importantly, you will definitely want to run an AI from day one. You say you did not get symptoms last cycle until week 10 or so. Well if you would have been on an AI you would not even had to deal with estrogen problems late in your cycle. Better safe than sorry imo. And Aromasin is far superior as it is a suicidal AI preventing the risk of rebound gyno.
 
Welcome to the forum. Plenty of more educated guys out there than me that will be here to help but just a few things that stick out to me in the meantime:

Your PCT is incomplete. This is the recommended PCT.

clomid 50/25/25/25
nolva 40/40/20/20
asin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day

And most importantly, you will definitely want to run an AI from day one. You say you did not get symptoms last cycle until week 10 or so. Well if you would have been on an AI you would not even had to deal with estrogen problems late in your cycle. Better safe than sorry imo. And Aromasin is far superior as it is a suicidal AI preventing the risk of rebound gyno.

^Agreed with IND here, run this PCT as laid out for you and also run an AI (exemestane preferred) throughout the cycle 12.5mg EOD to start and adjust from there. As you stated you began developing "knots" behind your nipple, i would assume this could possibly be due to an increase in armoatization from test converting into estrogen, so you definitely need an AI on cycle and remember just because you think you dont "feel" anything on cycle you would need bloodwork to determine this, there may be times when you have very high or very low estrogen and not feel a thing. You can get what you need at sarmsx.com they carry very high quality.
https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=133&search=pct
 
Why the SARMS and Nolva? I agree with the AI but it's just a test cycle and I see wayyy more often than not people recommending just run Clomid or just run Nolva for a test only cycle. I honestly when reading, don't see how both are necessary and don't see how I need SARMS to follow the cycle either. Granted this isn't me basing this off experience because I've only used SARMS once, but I don't see why I would need them.

I do agree with the fact that blood work is the only official way to determine this, which is why I'm doing blood work before, probably around week 8 then after my PCT.


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Also, not me being argumentative for the sake of being a dick but more for the sake of learning more and more.


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man i swear i cover this multiple times a day at the minimum

when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well...

here is a link to the pct you need followed by the layout...

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=133&search=platinum

clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day
 
man i swear i cover this multiple times a day at the minimum

when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well...

here is a link to the pct you need followed by the layout...

https://www.sarmsx.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=133&search=platinum

clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day

Awesome. Definitely information I'll keep in mind. I guess I didn't notice much a loss from my last cycle, a little but not a lot and I didn't use these! Either way thanks for schooling me!


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Awesome. Definitely information I'll keep in mind. I guess I didn't notice much a loss from my last cycle, a little but not a lot and I didn't use these! Either way thanks for schooling me!


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absolutely bro, thats what im here for... let me know if you ever have any other questions!
 
So I can get some blood work done at a buddies lab for a pretty good price. However, the cutoff for test is 1500, and it only tells me total not free. Do you think this test would be just fine for pre-cycle bloods? If I'm running 500mg per week, do you think I would need higher than 1500 if I get tested around week 6/7 of cycle, or does recommend a different time frame? I know the free test is important, but is it absolutely pertinent to know?


SCHOOL ME
 
So I can get some blood work done at a buddies lab for a pretty good price. However, the cutoff for test is 1500, and it only tells me total not free. Do you think this test would be just fine for pre-cycle bloods? If I'm running 500mg per week, do you think I would need higher than 1500 if I get tested around week 6/7 of cycle, or does recommend a different time frame? I know the free test is important, but is it absolutely pertinent to know?


SCHOOL ME

you would be looking for what your Estrogen levels are as the question to your thread was in regards to AI usage and addressing the knots behind your nipples issue
 
you would be looking for what your Estrogen levels are as the question to your thread was in regards to AI usage and addressing the knots behind your nipples issue

I know I need to look at estrogen. It was more of a general question on blood work and if it's relevant to know the free test or more important to know the total test. The labs I'm getting include Cholesterol,hdl,ldl,Triglycerides,Cholesterol/hdl ratio. Last but not least your bodies hormone levels which include lh,fsh,total testosterone,and estradiol.
 
So I can get some blood work done at a buddies lab for a pretty good price. However, the cutoff for test is 1500, and it only tells me total not free. Do you think this test would be just fine for pre-cycle bloods? If I'm running 500mg per week, do you think I would need higher than 1500 if I get tested around week 6/7 of cycle, or does recommend a different time frame? I know the free test is important, but is it absolutely pertinent to know?


SCHOOL ME

its always good to get as many tests done as you can and yes, free test IS important... if you have quality test then you should be well over 1500 at 500 mg per week bro
 
Yeah free test is capped for the one I'm going to have tomorrow before starting cycle on Friday. It's capped at 1,500 which I doubt I am over that. Going to have work done that does not have a limit to the test around week 8, should be a good time I assume.

I need to do some more reading into the free and total test. I know the difference, I am just reading that the total test is what's important to know. Obviously not saying free test isn't, but for monitoring your test levels while on AAS I am reading total. Either way, I'll find out.

Thanks guys.


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Yeah free test is capped for the one I'm going to have tomorrow before starting cycle on Friday. It's capped at 1,500 which I doubt I am over that. Going to have work done that does not have a limit to the test around week 8, should be a good time I assume.

I need to do some more reading into the free and total test. I know the difference, I am just reading that the total test is what's important to know. Obviously not saying free test isn't, but for monitoring your test levels while on AAS I am reading total. Either way, I'll find out.

Thanks guys.


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here you go bro... http://www.alphamaleinstitute.com/y...ant-value-in-testosterone-therapy-newsletter/
 
i like this explanation, im gonna bookmark this link as it breaks this down very easily and should be understandable for most people.
it really is... its easier for most to understand in the way its explained so i thought it would be very beneficial...
 
Thank Dylan! I just got done reading for about an hour and I'm informed now, but I'm definitely reading this one as well. I will post bloods on Thursday.


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