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cycle question

herasis

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Hey dylan just want to start off by letting you know I'm a big fan of your YouTube videos and have also read alot of your forums.
So for starters I'm 24 5'11 195 been training for about 8 years and have recently thought about taking my first cycle. I would really appreciate your input on my cycle plan I'm thinking about 8 or 10 weeks. My training regiment is on point as well as my diet.

Test prop - 100 mg eod
Proviron - 50 mg ed
Aridex Ai -( not quite sure dosage)

Would hcg be helpfully with this cycle?

PCT- I was thinking just clomid would that be suffice?

I appreciate you taking time to read this and look forward to hearing back.
 
Hey dylan just want to start off by letting you know I'm a big fan of your YouTube videos and have also read alot of your forums.
So for starters I'm 24 5'11 195 been training for about 8 years and have recently thought about taking my first cycle. I would really appreciate your input on my cycle plan I'm thinking about 8 or 10 weeks. My training regiment is on point as well as my diet.

Test prop - 100 mg eod
Proviron - 50 mg ed
Aridex Ai -( not quite sure dosage)

Would hcg be helpfully with this cycle?

PCT- I was thinking just clomid would that be suffice?

I appreciate you taking time to read this and look forward to hearing back.

Why do you want to use prop? Use cyp. Why use arim when you can get aromasin from sarmsx? You use 10-15mg of aromasin eod while on cycle and same protcol during pct. Pct needs more than clomid...it needs aromasin,nolva and clomid.You can put sarms in there too. Hcg not needed..up to you.
 
Hey dylan just want to start off by letting you know I'm a big fan of your YouTube videos and have also read alot of your forums.
So for starters I'm 24 5'11 195 been training for about 8 years and have recently thought about taking my first cycle. I would really appreciate your input on my cycle plan I'm thinking about 8 or 10 weeks. My training regiment is on point as well as my diet.

Test prop - 100 mg eod
Proviron - 50 mg ed
Aridex Ai -( not quite sure dosage)

Would hcg be helpfully with this cycle?

PCT- I was thinking just clomid would that be suffice?

I appreciate you taking time to read this and look forward to hearing back.

I wouldn't recommend test prop for a first cycle bro. It makes no sense to do so. You will need to pin every other day, and for someone new to pinning I don't recommend that. First time at least go with test C. I don't even use test prop EVER myself. No need to. Run a simple 12 week cycle, andyou will need much more for a pct as well


Here is a good layout for you. I also added some sarms to the cycle which I think would be excellent additions to help you add more lean mass and strength gains to the cycle and provide better endurance and fat loss. Everything is available at www.sarmsx.com

1-12 Test C 350mg per week
1-12 aromasin 12.5mg EOD
1-12 proviron 50mg ED
1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout… p




Start your pct two weeks after last injection and run the following. The whole stack is available in the link below that will cover you

https://www.sarmsx.com/stacks/platinum-pct-stack

Clomid 50/50/25/25
Nolva 40/40/20/20
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
MK-2866 25mg ED
GW 20mg ED



(PM me for a price list for Biotech Labs and 10% discount)
 
Hey dylan just want to start off by letting you know I'm a big fan of your YouTube videos and have also read alot of your forums.
So for starters I'm 24 5'11 195 been training for about 8 years and have recently thought about taking my first cycle. I would really appreciate your input on my cycle plan I'm thinking about 8 or 10 weeks. My training regiment is on point as well as my diet.

Test prop - 100 mg eod
Proviron - 50 mg ed
Aridex Ai -( not quite sure dosage)

Would hcg be helpfully with this cycle?

PCT- I was thinking just clomid would that be suffice?

I appreciate you taking time to read this and look forward to hearing back.


hey bro...

i wish you would wait a few more years as your still quite young and your making a mistake... its just not smart but if your intent then you need to make some changes...

1. test prop is really not an optimal first cycle compound... your just introducing your body to pinning and having to do it so often with something that can be a bit more painful as it is makes it a poor choice

2. clomid only is not any sort of pct whatsoever... im not sure where you are getting that type of info that says that is a pct but that's flat out horrible...

3. yes, hcg will be used but minimal


here is what i would recommend for a first cycle... you can get all your sarms, ancillaries and pct at www.sarmsx.com

1-12 test cyp 350 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg every other day
1-14 proviron 50 mg day1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m.
1-12 GW-510516 20 mg day… dosed all at once 30 minutes before workout…
1-12 mk-2866 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m.
11-14 hcg 1000 ius week

pct 15-18


clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/20/20/20
aromasin 12.5 mg eod
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day
 
Although as a general rule prop isn't the best choice for a first cycle, I used it with ease. I went that route because I also used tne (test no esther). Im a healthcate professional who knows how to pin though. Good luck bro
 
I used to swear by prop. In my older, more educated years I don't see any reason to use prop. I stole this from another member on another forum (both who shall remain nameless)

I have to say, I see no advantage whatsoever to using a propionate ester -- for ANYTHING.

Okay, you can say that since it's a faster ester, technically, more of the compound gets used. That's true. But the difference is nominal.

Stay with me on this...

Let's say that 100 mgs of test testosterone propionate is a full 100 mgs. (It isn't but let's keep things simple for clarities sake). Then you'd get 100 mgs for a day. By day two, you're getting around 70 mgs. So that requires 4 shots a week to keep levels elevated.

Now, let's say a enanthate gives a slow steady release of about HALF (It's more than that but I'm going to keep estimates conservative to make a point). It will peak after 2 days and drop down to about 50 by day 7.

Going by this, you actually get a comparable amount of test in your system from a single shot of testosterone enanthate as you do from 4 shots of testosterone propionate.

Now, they say testosterone propionate causes less water retention, but again, I think it's marginal. In fact, testosterone propionate aromatizes more since it's a quicker hit, so you may need more aromatase inhibitor -- which in a sense, leaves you right back in the same place. Personally, I prefer the "fullness" from testosterone enanthate, but

Okay, let's address the obvious. testosterone propionate "kicks in " faster. Not really.

True, blood levels will peak in minutes with testosterone propionate. But so what? Do a little more testosterone enanthate and you'll still have superphysiologicla levels within a couple of hours. The notion that testosterone enanthate takes "weeks" to kick in is the dumbest for of ignorant bro-science. It simply is not true. I actually think it's an excuse to not train full out and blame the "kick-in" time of the drugs.

This goes across the board. Masteron was originally in a testosterone propionate form. But many UG labs have used the testosterone enanthate ester. Is it as good? I think it's BETTER. You still get a quick hit. (Mast does that). But it LASTS! Mast testosterone propionate seems to lose its effect within a couple of days. The testosterone enanthate does not.

Of course, there will be those who swear by testosterone propionate. I just don't see it. ANd I think if everyone gave it a fair shot (no pun intended) they'd realize that a testosterone propionate ester for anyone cycling is essentially more work, time and money than it's worth.

But to each his own.
 
I used to swear by prop. In my older, more educated years I don't see any reason to use prop. I stole this from another member on another forum (both who shall remain nameless)

I have to say, I see no advantage whatsoever to using a propionate ester -- for ANYTHING.

Okay, you can say that since it's a faster ester, technically, more of the compound gets used. That's true. But the difference is nominal.

Stay with me on this...

Let's say that 100 mgs of test testosterone propionate is a full 100 mgs. (It isn't but let's keep things simple for clarities sake). Then you'd get 100 mgs for a day. By day two, you're getting around 70 mgs. So that requires 4 shots a week to keep levels elevated.

Now, let's say a enanthate gives a slow steady release of about HALF (It's more than that but I'm going to keep estimates conservative to make a point). It will peak after 2 days and drop down to about 50 by day 7.

Going by this, you actually get a comparable amount of test in your system from a single shot of testosterone enanthate as you do from 4 shots of testosterone propionate.

Now, they say testosterone propionate causes less water retention, but again, I think it's marginal. In fact, testosterone propionate aromatizes more since it's a quicker hit, so you may need more aromatase inhibitor -- which in a sense, leaves you right back in the same place. Personally, I prefer the "fullness" from testosterone enanthate, but

Okay, let's address the obvious. testosterone propionate "kicks in " faster. Not really.

True, blood levels will peak in minutes with testosterone propionate. But so what? Do a little more testosterone enanthate and you'll still have superphysiologicla levels within a couple of hours. The notion that testosterone enanthate takes "weeks" to kick in is the dumbest for of ignorant bro-science. It simply is not true. I actually think it's an excuse to not train full out and blame the "kick-in" time of the drugs.

This goes across the board. Masteron was originally in a testosterone propionate form. But many UG labs have used the testosterone enanthate ester. Is it as good? I think it's BETTER. You still get a quick hit. (Mast does that). But it LASTS! Mast testosterone propionate seems to lose its effect within a couple of days. The testosterone enanthate does not.

Of course, there will be those who swear by testosterone propionate. I just don't see it. ANd I think if everyone gave it a fair shot (no pun intended) they'd realize that a testosterone propionate ester for anyone cycling is essentially more work, time and money than it's worth.

But to each his own.

Great post bro, and I agree with all of it. I use only long esters exclusively now myself,many won't use anything else. No more short esters and constant pinning for me. I don't even switch to short esters in prep


(PM me for a price list for Biotech Labs and 10% discount)
 
Great post bro, and I agree with all of it. I use only long esters exclusively now myself,many won't use anything else. No more short esters and constant pinning for me. I don't even switch to short esters in prep


(PM me for a price list for Biotech Labs and 10% discount)

YUP!

I use cypionate exclusively as my test of choice and I'm dry all the time.....yes; right up until show day.

The water retention comes from poor nutrition and the that kick in bullshit is total 110% bullshit.
 
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